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http://www.kauz.com/news/local/40312562.html

I found this kind of interesting. It reminded me of a thread where someone claimed that bikers would get 50 gallon drums and mix up some chemicals in the drum and just let it sit under a waterfall and come back sometime later and if it hasn't exploded they would extract the goodies.

But it says it doesn't yield much. So i'm not sure if I even believe this.
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It doesn't yield much and the product is utter shit. Not worth it.
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Old 08-28-2009, 02:38 PM
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I was wondering about this, what the hell do they do just mix up the 3 main ingredients and let it sit for awhile?
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Old 08-28-2009, 02:39 PM
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From what I understand the shake-n-bake method produces methcathinone rather than methamphetamine, but I have not really looked into it as I am neither a chemist nor a user.
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I was wondering about this, what the hell do they do just mix up the 3 main ingredients and let it sit for awhile?
It is a birch reaction yes, but it is very very shitty. Also insanely dangerous. It's recipes like these that can have labs raided on the grounds of "possibility of explosion".
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I'm guessing its the pressure that builds up that is the most dangerous? You could just put a balloon on there or something if you need it to have pressure.
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I believe somebody made a thread about this here a while ago, and the conclusion was that since it doesn't contain the chemicals needed to make Methamphetamine, you won't get any Methamphetamine.

EDIT: Wait, I think that thread was on the "String" method. Basically the same thing, though. The idea is to put everything supposedly needed together then let it sit.

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OMFG. Hate you people.
Ahh, SN. We love you man, and we miss you. I'm sure 100% of the non-braindead motherfuckers on here would love to just pack up and leave for Chemphoria. But I mean, just face it; the community is fucking dead over there.

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Edit: Ahh, well I'm glad you understand, at least.

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i m a newb, what are the 3 main ingredients?
and could someone post a synth?
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i m a newb, what are the 3 main ingredients?
and could someone post a synth?
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:25 PM
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Ahh, SN. We love you man, and we miss you. I'm sure 100% of the non-braindead motherfuckers on here would love to just pack up and leave for Chemphoria. But I mean, just face it; the community is fucking dead over there.

Come back, please?
Oh I agree, that place is dead, because the dude running it's a douche. I am back here now, for what it's worth. Just something to kill a bit of time, give me something to laugh at. But thanks.
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Oh I agree, that place is dead, because the dude running it's a douche. I am back here now, for what it's worth. Just something to kill a bit of time, give me something to laugh at. But thanks.
Could this place be fix'd up? Say, required reading for all new posters and maybe an e-quiz before they can post a thread that doesn't get locked? Just the basics (a list of commonly abused subs and their respective pharmacologies, and maybe some chem), thoughts?
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Could this place be fix'd up? Say, required reading for all new posters and maybe an e-quiz before they can post a thread that doesn't get locked? Just the basics (a list of commonly abused subs and their respective pharmacologies, and maybe some chem), thoughts?
You know Zok would never go through with that shit.
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You know Zok would never go through with that shit.
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Could this place be fix'd up? Say, required reading for all new posters and maybe an e-quiz before they can post a thread that doesn't get locked? Just the basics (a list of commonly abused subs and their respective pharmacologies, and maybe some chem), thoughts?
That's just stupid.

EDIT: I'd like to throw in the word "commie!" for added effect. Also what stops them from just Googling the answers?
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You bunch of elitist bastads. Your just jealous about my string dope. And yeah chemphoria is crap.
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That's just stupid.

EDIT: I'd like to throw in the word "commie!" for added effect. Also what stops them from just Googling the answers?
The same thing that stops them from googling the answers to the ignorant questions they post on here. Ignorance and laziness.
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We'd still get in
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You know Zok would never go through with that shit.
Not Zok, we just need one mod (*looks at rizzo*) to lock threads by people who haven't passed the quiz. The quiz can be user designed. I think many people would jump a the opportunity to contribute a question or two.
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and just let it sit under a waterfall
Its the Psuedo and probably potassium permanganate.... or worse DNA warping dichromates to oxidize not reduce the stuff to MethCat

Assholes like that should be killed, or at least subjected to a lifetime of electrical shock and datura.
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a lifetime of electrical shock and datura.
Oh jesus christ man, that is the most horrific thing I've heard in a long time.
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Not Zok, we just need one mod (*looks at rizzo*) to lock threads by people who haven't passed the quiz. The quiz can be user designed. I think many people would jump a the opportunity to contribute a question or two.
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You have a smiley face as your avatar, a happy face in your post response, and a winky face in your sig. The angry face gets kinds of lost among the others. You always seem in a good mood.
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Does anyone remember the thread we had on doing the Birch by electrolysis of LiCl?
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Does anyone remember the thread we had on doing the Birch by electrolysis of LiCl?
Nope, but I imagine it would be quite problematic as (Li+) has a very high E*red voltage. Plus, what does that get run in, annie? That sh!t ain't happinen' in aqueous media, that's for damn sure.
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I'm pretty much a chem noob..but i know enough figure out my question before i bother people with it. Once you get into discussing the finer points of strike's book, or why fester was a dangerousd lunatic, i admit i can but gaze in wonder and wish i'd learned to be a better cook.
Still, theres at least a few of us decent lurkers worth keepin around.

i agree though, any mention of string dope should carry an auto death penalty to improve the gene pool.

so make de questions easily googleable neh?
no need to chuck the ones who can think, just the ones that choose not to.
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http://www.kauz.com/news/local/40312562.html

I found this kind of interesting. It reminded me of a thread where someone claimed that bikers would get 50 gallon drums and mix up some chemicals in the drum and just let it sit under a waterfall and come back sometime later and if it hasn't exploded they would extract the goodies.

But it says it doesn't yield much. So i'm not sure if I even believe this.
Alternative method for this which is by far better and safer in my opinion with way better yields.Plus it's easy as hell.

Equipment and ingredients-One 5 gallon bucket,One gallon of Clorox bleach,One gallon of ammonia, One bathroom with no windows.

Ok now were ready to begin to make M(d)e(a)th.

Step1-Go into the bathroom with all your shit and lock the door behind you. Make sure to brake the doorknob off so you and no one can get in or out the door.

Step2-Place 5 gallon bucket on the ground doesn't really matter where.

Step3-Dump bottle of bleach into 5 gallon bucket.

Step4-Dump bottle of ammonia into 5 gallon bucket.

Step5-Wasn't that so simple. Now the magic is already happening in front of your eyes.

(Note)-Your lungs might burn for a little bit but i promise this feeling will pass very soon.
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ok, i'll answer this sensibly. Birch reactions are another way of reducing your pseudo to meth, and in their most basic form are almost shake n bake. You're basically dissolving an alkali metal, originally sodium but more commonly lithum from batteries in order to create the solvated electron you need to reduce the pseudo. You use anhydrous ammonia as your solvent, that was commonly diverted from farms where it's used as fertiliser. Basically you dissolve your lithum into the ammonia, turning it a lovely blue colour, dump in your pseudo and leave to react. Because it's such a good reducing agent its less sensitive in terms of reaction ratios and indeed if you don't mind an incredibly impure end product it's been known to use just whole crushed pills and reduce the whole lot. Once finished you just pour off the annie and hey presto. Trouble is it's insanely dangerous due to the ammonia fumes, need to handle reactive metals and huge fire risk but it's probably the quickest and relatively discrete method to produce meth that your average hick could do.
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so its anyone gonna tell us how to make it?
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he just gave you the basic anny crank method.
l2read.
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he just gave you the basic anny crank method.
l2read.
i only got the jist of things.
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so its anyone gonna tell us how to make it?
With a basic understanding of chemistry you could work it out from the guidelines i gave. If you don't have this then it's not a sensible plan. Come to think of it, it's not a sensible plan. Unless you live in rural farming territory anhydrous ammonia is pretty inaccessible unless you know a friendly refrigeration company, and although simple sounding it's really a pretty fraught method that can go very, very horribly wrong and report it your horrible unpleasant death coughing your lungs out or in the firey flames of burning lithium.
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Nope, but I imagine it would be quite problematic as (Li+) has a very high E*red voltage. Plus, what does that get run in, annie? That sh!t ain't happinen' in aqueous media, that's for damn sure.
Indeed, but I had papers on it and it definitely worked for reduction of benzenoid compounds although benzylic alchohols were not mentioned. Solvent of choice is preferably NH3 (which doesn't need to be diverted from farms but can be made from base+ammonium salt ) but may be done with various substituted amines (though this gives a lower yield).

Review of the birch reduction:
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdwhteyu4mm

EDIT: Just have the whole damn folder, the info's in there somewhere, start with the file named "ref1":
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=8...018c8114394287

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anny by itself is pretty horrific shit if you dont know what your doing.
Trying to tap a buffalo incorrectly does NOT end well.
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Anyone who does meth is fucking retarded.
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GTFO my forum. Anyone who fucks themself up with drugs is retarded. Moderation is another story.
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moderation? where in hells rizzo when i need an example.
ah well, hunter s thompson said it best.

"Faster, faster faster! Until the thrill of Speed overcomes the fear of death!"

I do believe in control, moderation and i have only a nodding acquaintance.
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A thread like this would never survive in F&B

oh wait...

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=57980

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Sorry guys, my hands are tied. Until stupidity is outlawed and humanity decides to thrust itself into conscious evolution, all I can do is pwn the trolls.
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