Fentanyl patches.

[fuckbiscuit]

Ok, so my brother just got prescribed duragesic 25mcg/hour patches and he intends on leaving the patches on for the full 72 hours recommended.

I would also like some fent, but i'm not scummy enough to steal his medicine. So i've done a little research and it turns out when he changes and throws away the patch after the 72 hours there will still be alot of active ingredient in the patch. I just wanted to get a second opinion on whether or not it would be worthwhile salvaging these used patches seeing as i'd have another one ready to use every three days

[Gun Lover]

It probably would be worthwhile to gather lots of the spent ones, then extracting the gel inside.

One, however unfortunately, will not get you feeling much at all.

Even with fresh 25mcg/hr patches, I'd have to put the entire thing under my tongue to feel great for several hours (no opiate tolerance).

[fuckbiscuit]

Originally Posted by Gun Lover

It probably would be worthwhile to gather lots of the spent ones, then extracting the gel inside.

One, however unfortunately, will not get you feeling much at all

When he showed me the one on his upper arm it was the type without gel



This one to be exact. So i think an iso extraction is pretty much out of the question, i think if i gather a few and give them a chew it might get me to where i want to be.

[Kristin]

You're going to chew them after they were stuck on your brother for 3 days?

Hmm.

If there isn't gel inside, wtf is it?

[Gun Lover]

I see. I thought Duragesic contained gel, but I have always had Mylans without the gel.

But definitely, if you're willing to chew them up you will have a good feeling

[fuckbiscuit]

Originally Posted by Kristin

You're going to chew them after they were stuck on your brother for 3 days?

Hmm.

If there isn't gel inside, wtf is it?

Its my brother, its not like i'm licking his asshole.

[fuckbiscuit]

Originally Posted by Gun Lover

I see. I thought Duragesic contained gel, but I have always had Mylans without the gel.

But definitely, if you're willing to chew them up you will have a good feeling

I'll have to double check that, when i used to get them when i was younger mine never had gel in. Anyone have any experience with the duragesic?

[Piles of Crack]

Originally Posted by fuckbiscuit

Anyone have any experience with the duragesic?

Yes, I do, and I must say that you are mistaken if you think Duragesics don't have the gel inside; they most certainly do. As was mentioned a few posts prior, the patches without gel are the generic Mylans.

As far as salvaging the leftovers after 72 hours, in my opinion it would be worth it. Think about it: there's 2.5 mg of Fentanyl in that patch, to be delivered at 25 mcg an hour, for 72 hours. 25 x 72= 1800 mcg, which technically would mean there's still 700 mcg of fentanyl left in that patch. Your mileage will vary, which is why they design them with a little bit of breathing room for the patient, but even a few hundred micrograms is enough fentanyl for someone with no tolerance to get effects from if they use it properly.

I never liked chewing the things, to be honest with you; I had access to the 50 mcg/hr Duragesics for some time a few years ago, and I always preferred to smoke it, though it is a bit of an "advanced technique", so to speak. Not really, though; you basically just prick the pad with a pin or something, just enough to go in one side but not out the other, then squeeze the gel out through the hole and collect it on a piece of aluminum foil.

Get something to use as your "inhalation device" (I used a hollowed-out Bic pen, modified with a bit of foil on the bottom end to make it easier to suck up the smoke), hold it with your mouth/teeth, then use one hand to hold the foil and the other to work the lighter. The trick is to keep the flame just under the foil to the point that it isn't actually touching it but is close enough to heat it; don't worry, you'll be able to tell. As you're doing this, suck in through the straw/tube at the same time, because the Fentanyl smoke will be more of "wisps" than actual cloudy smoke.

It's a LOT easier than it sounds, trust me. I mean, chewing it will work, as well, but I never actually got "high" from Fentanyl unless I smoked it with the above method. It's also the easiest way to gauge your dose and the most conservative way to go about it besides I.V., which I sure as hell wouldn't advise anyone to do with Fentanyl, anyways.

Be careful whatever you do, though. That stuff isn't a joke.

[fuckbiscuit]

Originally Posted by -PoC

Yes, I do, and I must say that you are mistaken if you think Duragesics don't have the gel inside; they most certainly do. As was mentioned a few posts prior, the patches without gel are the generic Mylans.

As far as salvaging the leftovers after 72 hours, in my opinion it would be worth it. Think about it: there's 2.5 mg of Fentanyl in that patch, to be delivered at 25 mcg an hour, for 72 hours. 25 x 72= 1800 mcg, which technically would mean there's still 700 mcg of fentanyl left in that patch. Your mileage will vary, which is why they design them with a little bit of breathing room for the patient, but even a few hundred micrograms is enough fentanyl for someone with no tolerance to get effects from if they use it properly.

I never liked chewing the things, to be honest with you; I had access to the 50 mcg/hr Duragesics for some time a few years ago, and I always preferred to smoke it, though it is a bit of an "advanced technique", so to speak. Not really, though; you basically just prick the pad with a pin or something, just enough to go in one side but not out the other, then squeeze the gel out through the hole and collect it on a piece of aluminum foil.

Get something to use as your "inhalation device" (I used a hollowed-out Bic pen, modified with a bit of foil on the bottom end to make it easier to suck up the smoke), hold it with your mouth/teeth, then use one hand to hold the foil and the other to work the lighter. The trick is to keep the flame just under the foil to the point that it isn't actually touching it but is close enough to heat it; don't worry, you'll be able to tell. As you're doing this, suck in through the straw/tube at the same time, because the Fentanyl smoke will be more of "wisps" than actual cloudy smoke.

It's a LOT easier than it sounds, trust me. I mean, chewing it will work, as well, but I never actually got "high" from Fentanyl unless I smoked it with the above method. It's also the easiest way to gauge your dose and the most conservative way to go about it besides I.V., which I sure as hell wouldn't advise anyone to do with Fentanyl, anyways.

Be careful whatever you do, though. That stuff isn't a joke.

Thanks alot for clearing that up, they're so thin you can't really tell.
And yeah the stuff is deadly, i was prescribed them for childhood arthritis but they don't look anything like i remembered them.

By the looks of things i'm going to take the gel sublingually, after reading a few erowid reports it seems the most pleasant by majority vote; But i will try smoking it once that dose has worn off.

[NTP]

If I remember right a poster claimed he was on opana and then switched to the pathes, he said wearing them normally had him feeling pretty damn good.

[Spence_tron]

Originally Posted by -PoC

Yes, I do, and I must say that you are mistaken if you think Duragesics don't have the gel inside; they most certainly do. As was mentioned a few posts prior, the patches without gel are the generic Mylans.

As far as salvaging the leftovers after 72 hours, in my opinion it would be worth it. Think about it: there's 2.5 mg of Fentanyl in that patch, to be delivered at 25 mcg an hour, for 72 hours. 25 x 72= 1800 mcg, which technically would mean there's still 700 mcg of fentanyl left in that patch. Your mileage will vary, which is why they design them with a little bit of breathing room for the patient, but even a few hundred micrograms is enough fentanyl for someone with no tolerance to get effects from if they use it properly.

I never liked chewing the things, to be honest with you; I had access to the 50 mcg/hr Duragesics for some time a few years ago, and I always preferred to smoke it, though it is a bit of an "advanced technique", so to speak. Not really, though; you basically just prick the pad with a pin or something, just enough to go in one side but not out the other, then squeeze the gel out through the hole and collect it on a piece of aluminum foil.

Get something to use as your "inhalation device" (I used a hollowed-out Bic pen, modified with a bit of foil on the bottom end to make it easier to suck up the smoke), hold it with your mouth/teeth, then use one hand to hold the foil and the other to work the lighter. The trick is to keep the flame just under the foil to the point that it isn't actually touching it but is close enough to heat it; don't worry, you'll be able to tell. As you're doing this, suck in through the straw/tube at the same time, because the Fentanyl smoke will be more of "wisps" than actual cloudy smoke.

It's a LOT easier than it sounds, trust me. I mean, chewing it will work, as well, but I never actually got "high" from Fentanyl unless I smoked it with the above method. It's also the easiest way to gauge your dose and the most conservative way to go about it besides I.V., which I sure as hell wouldn't advise anyone to do with Fentanyl, anyways.

Be careful whatever you do, though. That stuff isn't a joke.

Fuck yes!

Smoking fent on foil is nice, but its always better to have a proper meth pipe. =)

smoked fent > smoked heroin IMHO. Maybe that's just me?

[Aces N 8s]

Originally Posted by NTP

If I remember right a poster claimed he was on opana and then switched to the pathes, he said wearing them normally had him feeling pretty damn good.

Yeah, that was me.

When I first switched to fent patches wearing them had me loaded for the whole day. But i adjusted to them quickly. Now I have to smoke them to get off.

OP, trust me there is enough left after 3 days to get really good on especially if youre opiate naive. But you will want to smoke them if they have gel in them (should be really easy to tell). That is not only the most efficient method but also the safest as you can gage your dose more accurately.

You can chase the dragon as was detailed above but what I prefer to do is to actually put the aluminum foil arounf the pen tube so that it makes an extension to the cylinder, hold it on with a rubber band, put the fent on the foil and smoke it that way. It works better because you cant possibly lose any smoke like you do if you hold the foil and hover above with the pen.

[fuckbiscuit]

I've not had any luck getting hold of any of the used patches so far, it seems he's not just throwing them out in the trash

Also i'm pretty sure these ones don't have gel in them, i think its just the glue/fent matrix, here are some pics of what i'm looking at getting.

Two of his unopened patches:



Sorry for the crappy webcam pics, but you get the idea.

[IWD]

Originally Posted by Aces N 8s

Yeah, that was me.

When I first switched to fent patches wearing them had me loaded for the whole day. But i adjusted to them quickly. Now I have to smoke them to get off.

OP, trust me there is enough left after 3 days to get really good on especially if youre opiate naive. But you will want to smoke them if they have gel in them (should be really easy to tell). That is not only the most efficient method but also the safest as you can gage your dose more accurately.

You can chase the dragon as was detailed above but what I prefer to do is to actually put the aluminum foil arounf the pen tube so that it makes an extension to the cylinder, hold it on with a rubber band, put the fent on the foil and smoke it that way. It works better because you cant possibly lose any smoke like you do if you hold the foil and hover above with the pen.

Mhm sure. YOU have tried oxymorphone. Yup alright.

Lying on the internet is hardcore!

[JustAnotherAsshole]

I long for the day that I get my hands on some fentanyl.