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Default morphine sulfate 15 mg

ive always been more of an upper guy, found an old prescription of generic morphine sulfate from a surgery i had laying around.
170 Lbs, havent taken pain killers for a long time now.
Advice, ROA, dose? What should I expect?
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:38 PM
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Morphine sucks unless injected.

Sniffing sucks, but DOES have higher bioavailability than oral ingestion. Start with 30mg?

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if your not a downer guy then you dont have a big tolerance, so just start small and be patient, if you dont feel anything in 2 hours, take more.
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If you have no tolerance to opiates then 15mg - 22.5mg (1.5 pills) is a good starting dose, unless youre short and that 170lbs is all fat then maybe 30mg.

Look up if your pills are extended release (Kadian, Avinza, MScontin), if so then you need to look up how to defeat the time release for that brand. Crush it, line it up, and rail it.

With no tolerance this may be overkill, but if you get some chitosan (commonly sold in supplement stores) and rail that with your morphine. This increases its bioavailability substantially.
(Source: Illum, et al. (2002). Intranasal Delivery of Morphine. The Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics. Vol 301)
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ahaha i dont get how it could "suck" though?

it's morphine, isn't it like the next best thing to heroin?
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ahaha i dont get how it could "suck" though?

it's morphine, isn't it like the next best thing to heroin?
HELL no.

Oxycodone is better than morphine.
Oxymorphone is better than morphine.
Hydromorphone is better than morphine.
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ahaha i dont get how it could "suck" though?

it's morphine, isn't it like the next best thing to heroin?


It's only good if you inject it. Other routes just don't work as well. Other problems with morphine include histamine response, which sucks, and includes rashes, and major itchiness.

I've IVed many opioids in my day, and morphine ranks lower than most of them.
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BTW, Chitosan is w1n. Srsly, get some. DO NOT WASTE THAT MS BY NOT USING CHITOSAN! Also, you're best friend as a potentiator is alcohol. A few shots before hand will work WONDERS for you. Be warned, though I don't know how close 15mg's of MS (intranasal with chitosan) will get you to OD with alcohol in you system.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: morphine sulfate 15 mg

took one and a half orally, not feeling ANYTHING other than slight nausea. will heed the advice and wait til i obtain chitosan.
Im not trying to catch a nod, just see if i can get that blanket/comfortable feeling. thanks for the advice, but i really dont think opiates do anything for me.
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took one and a half orally, not feeling ANYTHING other than slight nausea. will heed the advice and wait til i obtain chitosan.
Im not trying to catch a nod, just see if i can get that blanket/comfortable feeling. thanks for the advice, but i really dont think opiates do anything for me.
Dude, opiates do something for everyone. It's just dosage dependent. And it's the best feeling known to man when you get it right. Oh, and since railing can be thoroughly uncomfortable, between the large amount of chitosan and pill garbage, you can probably use it sublingually for the same effect. Beware, though, it might taste like arse.
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railed 7.5 mg's and im feeling better than i did with the 22 mg oral.
you werent lying. would it be overkill to do another 15 mg railed?
I'll be bored as shit as my laptop wont pick up connections and i dont wanna wake up my friends grandma typing on here. I still want to be able to move around in case of emergency. normally id just consult erowid for doseage but strangely enough morphine only has LAW and Images... isnt that fucked up?

my legs are feeling comfy and i feel a little energized, again other than that im not feeling much. im wearing long johns and my legs feel so soft and floaty from the inside out.
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oh and no complaints on the taste really, not anywhere near as bad as ice.
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Yeah dude eating that is a waste, snorting its is decent.

Apparently IV is real good, but I dont fuck with that and its probably not a good idea you start to either.

But waiting 2 hours between doses intranasally is way too long so dont listen to that guy.

I would have said to blow like 1.5 and wait 30-45 minutes for the other half if you need it, and then repeat if necessary.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:03 AM
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yeh, totally not impressed. aside from a small relaxation and a bit of talkativeness im no different than having taken like half of a 75 mg vic. GAHAY!

i figured this shit would be like king of kings for opiates and i've learned alot.

ive got like 3 more to blow, might crush another 1.5 up and do it, if i dont feel anything ill just sell the rest.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:42 AM
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FAIL. not only did i not feel anything pleasurable i feel like ive got a nasty hangover and i cant walk without feeling sick.
gross... close thread, i dont care about this anymore.
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Morphine is faggot shit unless you get in liquid and IV.
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FAIL. not only did i not feel anything pleasurable i feel like ive got a nasty hangover and i cant walk without feeling sick.
gross... close thread, i dont care about this anymore.
What happened to the chitosan? You fail at drugs. Go OD in a ditch.

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hahahah oohhh... poor guys mad cause he doesn't have any opiates and if he did hed DO THEM THE "RIGHT" WAY.

like taking chitosan with it woulda magically taken the nausea away and only made me feel good.. dumbass.

chitosan wouldve potentiated it yes. but would have done NOTHING for the fact most opiates, as i've said, do nothing but make me dizzy and uncomfortable for the most part. whatever cock knuckles.
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im no different than having taken like half of a 75 mg vic. GAHAY!
What? Did you mean to write 7.5mg? Because there is no such thing as "a 75mg vicodin. Vicodin comes in strengths of 5mg, 7.5mg, and 10mg hydrocodone with different amounts of APAP available for each of the three, though some of those preparations are available only under different brand names like lortab or norco.
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Default Re: morphine sulfate 15 mg

If it's time release like the 30mg morphine pills I got from one of my neighbors before, you'll have to chip/suck/wash off the coating before breaking it down to snort it. If you do snort it, three 30mg pills are like one 30mg roxi, not in feeling but in dosage. It doesn't get you as sedated really, just much more euphoria.

In other words, morphine (liquid and pills) never really made me tired, it just made me happy and goofy... like I couldn't stop smiling and laughing/joking around, and my homeboy couldn't tell what I was on until I told him.

Anyways, after reading through this topic, you definitely didn't do enough, 15mg ain't shit, and 22.5 mg ain't shit, especially since you did it orally. Even with no tolerance, I'd say start out with railing 30mg, wait 15-20 minutes tops, if you aren't fucked up, do another 30mg (maybe 15mg if you're nervous/cautious). It'd never make sense to wait 2 hours. Even if you take it orally, I'd say wait 30-50 minutes... only 15-20 for intranasal.

I did about 3 30mg pills, after putting like 20cc's of liquid under my tongue, and that's only because I had a mild/moderate tolerance. I've also done 5-7 pills split mainly between me and another person after doing more liquid than that. Like I said, 45-60 mg would've probably set you straight.

I'm gonna have to call overkill with the caution here. I can understand wanting to be careful with a new drug, but come on, 6 of those pills you had with no tolerance wouldn't have been anywhere near an overdose. Worst that would have happened was you throwing up and being really fucked up.

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i'm 150 lbs and i started off with 80 mg took orally my first time, which was about 2 weeks ago. I was fucked up for a little bit but not nearly as much as I thought I would be off morphine. Honestly i like hydrocodone more but maybe I just didn't take enough.
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giving her another shot today.
no chitosan. one shot of vodka left.
ive already railed 30 mgs, and its been about 15 mins.
am i really NOT going to feel anything if i snort the other 30?
I mean is it possible?
I ate light today, and my left nostril is SOMEWHAT clear, could be stuffier.
it doesnt bother me snorting so im going to go this route.
i just wanna feel good hahaha why wont it work?

also how would i do sublingual? put in water and sqish in mouth?
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giving her another shot today.
no chitosan. one shot of vodka left.
ive already railed 30 mgs, and its been about 15 mins.
am i really NOT going to feel anything if i snort the other 30?
I mean is it possible?
I ate light today, and my left nostril is SOMEWHAT clear, could be stuffier.
it doesnt bother me snorting so im going to go this route.
i just wanna feel good hahaha why wont it work?

also how would i do sublingual? put in water and sqish in mouth?
if no good in half an hour, have a smoke and watch some tv
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haha crazy shit.
i woke up this mornig and blew my nose and had easily like 50 mg of brown putty type stuff come out, it wasnt liquidy or snotty at all.
i have to say though, before i went to bed last night i felt fucking GOOOD.
like i was asleep, and vividly picturing all sorts of real things happening, but just regular stuff. it was so trippy. is morphine known to do this? i felt i could visually recall shit in FINE detail, WAY more than normal. plus i was comfy.

45 mg left.

smokeable? im iffy on snorting it all because of the fact shit came back out it seemed like this morning...

whats the method to smoking it, it didnt seem to work too well on foil, lots of loss.
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haha crazy shit.
i woke up this mornig and blew my nose and had easily like 50 mg of brown putty type stuff come out, it wasnt liquidy or snotty at all.
Thats why I said, in my very first post, that if your pills are extended release that you ned to look up how to defeat the gel mech.

You have MSContin (brand name means Morphine Sulfate Continuous-release). That is why you havnt been feeling shit from them. Because when you snort your pill, the powder hits your nose and turns into goop, which in turn stops you nose from absorbing most of your morphine.

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45 mg left.

smokeable? im iffy on snorting it all because of the fact shit came back out it seemed like this morning...

whats the method to smoking it, it didnt seem to work too well on foil, lots of loss.
Dont smoke fucking pills.

Drugs that are dispensed in pills are usually in salt forms (hence the term "Morphine Sulfate"). Salt forms of drugs decompose at right around the same temp they vaporize at. This is the same reason why cocaine has to be made into a freebase (changed from a salt) in order to be smoked. Because your bic lighter is not able to heat it up enough to vaporize without also destroying 90% of it.

So however much of that morphine you already tried to smoke you might as well have just burned... oh, wait, thats exactly what you did do.

Now go look up the term "MSContin Crisping" and figure out how to snort your pills without losing all your product in a gel wad that just sits in your sinus.

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With some drugs (like Opana ER for instance) the chemical is strong enough and well enough absorbed in the nose that you can just leave the glob in there and slowly let it seep out over time to keep you fucked up for hours. Morphine is not one of these.

That also explains why the effects you described are not typical of morphine. But they are the exact kind of subjective report you would expect from someone who has convinced himself that he's going to get high, and winds up with a nice placebo effect because he fucked up his drug prep and wasted his shit.
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Morphine sucks unless injected.

Sniffing sucks, but DOES have higher bioavailability than oral ingestion. Start with 30mg?

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actually the bioavail. of morphine sulfate insulfation is lower than oral bu has a faster onset.


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yeh, totally not impressed. aside from a small relaxation and a bit of talkativeness im no different than having taken like half of a 75 mg vic. GAHAY!

i figured this shit would be like king of kings for opiates and i've learned alot.

ive got like 3 more to blow, might crush another 1.5 up and do it, if i dont feel anything ill just sell the rest.
dude you expect someting differnt from the same class of drugs. They ALL are VERY similar with slight variances in effects.

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how do you know its MSContin.

it says ETH on one side, brown
with 15 on the back... i think those are IRs dude.
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how do you know its MSContin.

it says ETH on one side, brown
with 15 on the back... i think those are IRs dude.
no THEY are I.R.'s, ethex brand 15s.
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so why the fuck does doofus up there keep talking like he knows whatsup.
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so why the fuck does doofus up there keep talking like he knows whatsup.
I said they were MSContin because those are the most common ones that gel up like you said it did. Either way it doesnt matter, its all the same if its turning into gel.
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