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Old 04-10-2010, 04:33 AM
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Oh yeah!

DETz!!!!!

So, I be tripping soon, First, 3 ml of DET solution 100-200 mg of impure DET, in a shot of lemon mead, orally. Let's see how it goes...

Mindset: Just got done with a therapy session, feeling great, very perspective and energetic. Ready for adventure.

Thought it would be subtle and erotic, as the peripheral effects washed over me, the chemical through my tissue.

Then I realized the strength of the cerebral effects, as they over powered the those of the peripheral.

Wow, almost an hour in, and I am already having some of the most fluid and insightful thought of my life. Every aspect of my mind seems to be performing at it's highest function, I see such detail and perspective in all sensations and thoughts, thought becomes very visual. I feel as though I have access to infinite knowledge, and can change perspective so rapidly and easily, so fluidly, it's like an all in one, all encompassing perception, that just diffuses or adapts into any shape or form. I don't really know if I have all the information in the Universe(s), because perspective changes so fast, I don't know whether they contradict, that if they're true, I don't know anything, the perceptions cycle/race forward/outward so rapidly, whether in a circle or out into the infinite I don't know. But what I do know, is that everything is one, somehow I know this, as it seems to be at the core and,

and thought and perspective just continues to change, in every direction and dimension possible, that thought becomes incomprehensible, and I must find security and equilibrium in the anamilistic desires of the my sexuality, because insight becomes confusion, as I realize once again everything within our mind is just a perception.

And I end it at this, because whether anything is true or not I don't know, whether there is one or infinite, I do not know. I know everything so rapidly is must be all at once, it must be one

stop, this has spiraled out of control, and can go on forever, so im going to jack off

all i know, is existence feels good. and i settle on the perception pure happiness. everything is in harmony, and I can go on forever about it.

It's so complex my words cannot convey it, so do not look at what these words say, but what my behavior means, as this was the purpose of the trip report, and in order for all things to keep going, they must find balance and equilibrium, in go in one direction, please one purpose.

Let's say, best trip of my life, as all my very desires are fulfilled, this is heaven, this is paradise. All the knowledge and content one could have. it makes your mind so hyperactive, so rapidly changing, you feel like you know everything, as you realize you're so altered, it's impossible to even know anything.

Now I am going to just enjoy pleasures other than infinite knowledge. Emotion in music, and desire in sexual thought.

This drug makes the mind so overactive, that it causes confusion. But if you concentrate enough you see within the confusion that you know everything. Everything is just a perspective of the mind, the two types/poles/sides of equilibrium being emotional feelings and cognitive/conscious thought, and that this is some kind of orgasm of excessive mental and emotional stimulation.

Fuck this, words cannot describe all my good feelings and realizations, let's just say everyone should try this, it's not a drug, it's, it is the infinite.

this drug is a ++++ on the BungHole rating scale.

As you can see, I have decided to stick with the perception that everything radiates outward, from within me, and perhaps from within you, because it just feels so good.

EDIT: ^^^That, was a trip.....
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:23 PM
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I'm confused through, I thought it needed to be taken with an MAOI?
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:29 PM
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I'm confused through, I thought it needed to be taken with an MAOI?
Oh hellz nah. The ethyl group prolongs half life sooooo much. I've smoked MH extracted DMT, it lasts 10, 20 minutes at most. When you smoke DET, it last over two hours. When you eat it, it really depends on the dose. I'm sure a higher dose would last well over 4 hours, which was about how long it lasted last night. It is definitely active orally. Shulgin thought it wasn't and he actually spreaded a myth, then in TIHKAL he apologized for his mistake and reported how orally active it is. And orally>>>>>>smoking. Smoking just causes hallucinations in me, eating/drinking it causes some amazing cognitive effects, as you can see.

So yeah, absolutely orally active without MAOIs, based on literature and my experience.

And music still hasn't stopped being magical, even though I'm back to baseline.
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Because DET has ethyl groups attached to its nitrogen atom monoamine oxidase is unable to degrade it. This is true for many other tryptamines with larger nitrogen substitutents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethyl...mine#Chemistry
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Old 04-11-2010, 12:14 AM
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Here are two comparisons I'd really like to see: in your own opinion, how does it compare to LSD (both oral and smoked) and how does it compare to DMT (smoked vs smoked)?
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\ how does it compare to LSD (both oral and smoked)
I hope I'm just reading this wrong.
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:39 AM
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I hope I'm just reading this wrong.
Expanded form: how does DET compare to LSD when smoked, and how does it compare to LSD when ingested?
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Old 04-11-2010, 04:10 AM
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I hope I'm just reading this wrong.
He means the DET oral or smoked.

But yeah, I've either never had real acid, or the one time I have had acid, I was on too much of an oxy binge to feel it. So yeah, can't compare those two.

But DMT, that just caused some visual distortion and uncomfortable peripheral effects, which I think can't be it's full potential, I must have just not smoked enough.

DET, I smoked a bit more than I did DMT, but the shit was so visual. Not really any other effects, just anthropoid figures floating from my peripheral vision towards the center of my field of vision.

Then, DET orally has the profound cognitive effects (on me) that I listed above. As for the visuals, they were less in the eyes and more in the mind, like I could still see the world around me, but I was so spaced out and focused on my thoughts, I had this just amazing mental imagery.

And comparing it orally with opiates, which I know is stupid, DET actually has way more euphoria, and of course is non addictive. I don't really want more, I just want to savor the beauty in life, which is now even more apparent to me. Another successful, useful trip.

But yes, lastly, to describe the euphoria. It isn't so much like sex, or some kind of reward system activation. It truly feels like heaven, it feels like you have found your higher purpose. You truly feel one with the infinite. I never have felt so content in my life. And that effect has lasted up until right now, and is still lasting, 24 hours later.
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Definitely now on my list of psychedelics to try. Thanks for giving some good description, not just "it got me hi and i saw shit". I love you BungHole you set a good example for everyone else.
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Expanded form: how does DET compare to LSD when smoked, and how does it compare to LSD when ingested?
lol, sorry, it's really hard to keep track of subtle details when everything keeps switching places and melting and morphing...
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Thanks, I try.

I just wantz to spread teh enlightenment.....
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You too understand how bad that sentence looks , i am sure tho' your better then that
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I don't know what you guys are all on about. I always smoke my LSD. Never gotten anything from it though. I wonder why...

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I don't know what you guys are all on about. I always smoke my LSD. Never gotten anything from it though. I wonder why...

i c wut u did thar
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I just wantz to spread teh enlightenment.....
lol, I forgot I was supposed to be doing that. whoops.
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MOAR synthesis, LESS spiel und sang. GRRR finals week. I'll post nice snyhesization references, and pix!!1!1!1 (I wish..)
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