IV Amphetamine Dose

[mksnowboarder]

I've never shot amphetamine before (usually it goes in the nose). What's a good dose? (ie. compare an IV dose to a set dose of oral/intranasal amphetamine)

mike

[studious_redux]

As in plain ol' amphetamine sulphate? If it's street speed i'd say not at all, its horribly dirty stuff to be putting in your veins. I used to do a dual solvent clean and recrystalisation on base and then shoot around a point at a time with my smack as a poor mans speedball, it's a murderously more-ish way of taking amps, i'd happily blast a gram into my veins over a night until it felt like my heart was going to explode.

[T.K. Baha]

Who knows how pure it is? Just start small and work your way up. You can always take more you know?

[Ivy Mike]

Before you even think of shooting it up, do a extraction on it. That or get IR scripted amphetamine.

Seriously think of your health.

[mksnowboarder]

At the risk of opening the floodgates of stupidity, I'll confess that I plan to shoot adderall. Seriously, I understand the health risks better than most you, so if you plan to just post here about the safety risks of shooting the pills, take it elsewhere.

All I'm looking for is a dose comparison. If you can provide that, great. If not, please do not post in my thread. I'll decide whats safe to put in my body, thankee-sai.

mike

[studious_redux]

Originally Posted by mksnowboarder

At the risk of opening the floodgates of stupidity, I'll confess that I plan to shoot adderall. Seriously, I understand the health risks better than most you, so if you plan to just post here about the safety risks of shooting the pills, take it elsewhere.

All I'm looking for is a dose comparison. If you can provide that, great. If not, please do not post in my thread. I'll decide whats safe to put in my body, thankee-sai.

mike

I'm not going to lecture you on shooting pills, I exclusively shoot pills these days, as you said, there are ways and means. Shoot half your normal intranasal dose and work up from there.

[JFish15]

I tried shooting myself up with adderall in a saline solution, when I reached the peak of my hardcore pharmaceutical drug abuse phase, with an IM sized syringe needle thinking I'd be precise enough to do it right, I missed the vein and had a giant contusion taking up like half my fuckin arm and I had to wear long shirts for week so people wouldn't see that I was being a fucktard. So yeah, hope you're good at that, IM injection was the only thing idiot proof enough for me.

[stupid noob]

I really hope you will be basifying and retitrating to a single salt if it is a mixture of salts...... You probably know that, but I gotta say it, you know how it is. As for dose, I would agree with the above poster who suggested a point.

[mksnowboarder]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

I really hope you will be basifying and retitrating to a single salt if it is a mixture of salts...... You probably know that, but I gotta say it, you know how it is. As for dose, I would agree with the above poster who suggested a point.

A "point" as in 10mg? That seems awful low, but I guess its best to start that way. If there's anything in the world I don't want to OD on, it's amps.

For reference, I'd snort at least 50mg of adderall to have a good time (on occasion, I'd do as much as 130mg, without getting sick).

Edit: Wait, isn't a point 100mg? That, on the other hand, seems like too much.

mike

[stupid noob]

Originally Posted by mksnowboarder

A "point" as in 10mg? That seems awful low, but I guess its best to start that way. If there's anything in the world I don't want to OD on, it's amps.

For reference, I'd snort at least 50mg of adderall to have a good time (on occasion, I'd do as much as 130mg, without getting sick).

Edit: Wait, isn't a point 100mg? That, on the other hand, seems like too much.

mike

Yeah, 100mg. If that seems to high for you go with 50. You can always put more in your blood, you can't take it out. I only said a hundred because well, I am a druggy lol.

[mksnowboarder]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

I really hope you will be basifying and retitrating to a single salt if it is a mixture of salts...... You probably know that, but I gotta say it, you know how it is.

Well, actually, this is something I don't know. My chem knowledge is sorely lacking, as I focus almost exclusively on the biological aspect of drug use. I have read that some of the salts in the mix will produce nasty side effects, so if you could provide me with a starting point from which I could research this process, that'd be awesome.

mike

[stupid noob]

IDK man, learn about AB extractions. It's pretty easy really, just pick up some chem books or something. It's pretty basic. lol I love puns. Just basify it with a high PH solution of something like NaOH or ammonia, add a nonpolar solvent like ether or something, separate the layers keeping the nonpolar layer, and then just either gas the solution with some HCl gas, or you can just add dilute HCl dropwise until you get a PH of seven, precipitating all of the compound from the solvent, filter it and recrystallize it.


If I were you I would look in to methyl iodide/ glacial acetic acid methylation of amphetamine. Then again, I don't do stimulants anymore so I wouldn't do any of those things.

[Roooooooooooooooooooooot!]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

IDK man, learn about AB extractions. It's pretty easy really, just pick up some chem books or something. It's pretty basic. lol I love puns. Just basify it with a high PH solution of something like NaOH or ammonia, add a nonpolar solvent like ether or something, separate the layers keeping the nonpolar layer, and then just either gas the solution with some HCl gas, or you can just add dilute HCl dropwise until you get a PH of seven, precipitating all of the compound from the solvent, filter it and recrystallize it.


If I were you I would look in to methyl iodide/ glacial acetic acid methylation of amphetamine. Then again, I don't do stimulants anymore so I wouldn't do any of those things.

Turning adderal into meth, really?

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

IDK man, learn about AB extractions. It's pretty easy really, just pick up some chem books or something. It's pretty basic. lol I love puns. Just basify it with a high PH solution of something like NaOH or ammonia, add a nonpolar solvent like ether or something, separate the layers keeping the nonpolar layer, and then just either gas the solution with some HCl gas, or you can just add dilute HCl dropwise until you get a PH of seven, precipitating all of the compound from the solvent, filter it and recrystallize it.
.

I feel retarted that I know this, but I took four of my pills that were extra to me as I don't take my full doses all the time and crushed it up dissolved in Dil. NaOH solution and shook it up with some ether and separated out the water layer and left dry in a 50 ml beaker and I ended up with nothing, because I guess freebase amphetamine is an oily yellow substance that evaporates quickly at room temperature... I don't know, but it was 120 mg so 0.12 g which I should've seen with my eye and I didn't... it's all kind of sketchy. But when I tried to plunge the amp/saline, the salts I think wouldn't pass through the microfilter on the syringe needle; but then again I can't remember for sure. I haven't really had any good luck with any other methods besides insufflation and oral use.

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by Roooooooooooooooooooooot!

Turning adderal into meth, really?

haha, no shit... if that were possible or at least not a fuckin retarted waste of good pills I'd be doing that with every scrip I got.
yeah, but if you have like 200 or 300 pills to spare you go ahead and try that synth and tell me how it goes.

[stupid noob]

Originally Posted by kuman30

haha, no shit... if that were possible or at least not a fuckin retarted waste of good pills I'd be doing that with every scrip I got.
yeah, but if you have like 200 or 300 pills to spare you go ahead and try that synth and tell me how it goes.

First of all the reaction is sound as fuck, second of all amphetamine base is an oil but it sure the fuck doesn't evaporate. As for your basification and extraction, there could be a number of things you did wrong, I can't say for sure what it was because I wasn't there to watch you fuck it up.

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

First of all the reaction is sound as fuck, second of all amphetamine base is an oil but it sure the fuck doesn't evaporate. As for your basification and extraction, there could be a number of things you did wrong, I can't say for sure what it was because I wasn't there to watch you fuck it up.

right... you're dumb dude. Are you the first person in the world to turn adderall into meth? I've scoured the internet looking for stuff on just that and the only legitimate lab report that reported yields started with an entire MOLE of racemic amphetamines. Why are you acting like you've done stuff you haven't?

[Ed Lister]

Originally Posted by kuman30

Why are you acting like you've done stuff you haven't?

Here's why...

IV MEFF

[stupid noob]

I never said I've done it, just that it is entirely possible. Methylation of amphetamine is a pretty basic reaction. There are several ways to get there. Ugh. Just for the record, I was the mod of Lab Tips before totse went down, I would mod FB here but I just don't have the patience for that shit anymore, I declined the position. Don't let the name fool you, nooblet.

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

I never said I've done it, just that it is entirely possible. Methylation of amphetamine is a pretty basic reaction. There are several ways to get there. Ugh. Just for the record, I was the mod of Lab Tips before totse went down, I would mod FB here but I just don't have the patience for that shit anymore, I declined the position. Don't let the name fool you, nooblet.

Yeah, entirely possible on PAPER. It would be stupid to attempt the synth without at least 5-6 grams of amphetamine to waste. And How would you suggest preventing over methylation to get the N,N-dimethyl product? You act like you're hot shit, but do you even have a bachelors in chemistry or do you just read stuff on Rhodium archives and Erowid and act like you know your stuff?

[stupid noob]

Your piece of paper does not impress me. I never said anything about it working on a couple of pills, and frankly you are the dumbass for assuming it would.

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

Your piece of paper does not impress me. I never said anything about it working on a couple of pills, and frankly you are the dumbass for assuming it would.

Yeah, well at least I'm able to do things with my piece of paper.

[stupid noob]

I don't need a piece of paper to do things, and it looks like all you've done with yours is waste pills on poorly thought out failed experiments.

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

I don't need a piece of paper to do things, and it looks like all you've done with yours is waste pills on poorly thought out failed experiments.

yeah, four pills dude... I get 60 30 mg pills per month for 15 dollars, BFD.

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by kuman30

I feel retarted that I know this, but I took four of my pills that were extra to me as I don't take my full doses all the time and crushed it up dissolved in Dil. NaOH solution and shook it up with some ether and separated out the water layer and left dry in a 50 ml beaker and I ended up with nothing, because I guess freebase amphetamine is an oily yellow substance that evaporates quickly at room temperature... I don't know, but it was 120 mg so 0.12 g which I should've seen with my eye and I didn't... it's all kind of sketchy. But when I tried to plunge the amp/saline, the salts I think wouldn't pass through the microfilter on the syringe needle; but then again I can't remember for sure. I haven't really had any good luck with any other methods besides insufflation and oral use.

lol at mr big man up there with a "bachelors degree in chemistry," and he cant spell "retarded" right.

[mksnowboarder]

This has devolved into nothing more than children throwing insults.

You have disappointed me, pseudo-BLTC.

Mods, please lock thread?

mike

[stupid noob]

Originally Posted by mksnowboarder

This has devolved into nothing more than children throwing insults.

You have disappointed me, pseudo-BLTC.

Mods, please lock thread?

mike

So did you do it man? What was your chosen dose? How was it?

[mksnowboarder]

I shot 60mg (2 30mg Adderall XR). Didn't basify into one salt (I'm just too paranoid to trust myself with something I'd be shooting in my veins). The inital rush was, if anything uncomfortable. I even began to worry that I might be in danger. Once it subsided, however, the experience felt like perhaps twice that amount insufflated.

All in all, not particularly worth it. I'll save the sharps for my dope, thanks!

mike

[stupid noob]

THE RUSH!

[stateofhack]

RUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by ilovechronic

lol at mr big man up there with a "bachelors degree in chemistry," and he cant spell "retarded" right.

Oh well dude, I misspelled a word on a forum that's full of idiots anyway. I went to the regional spelling bee when I was in 7th grade so maybe that can earn me some kind of forgiveness for my little spelling boo boo?? Anyway, I'm not acting like a bachelors degree in chemistry makes me some kind of chem whiz kid of any kind because it really doesn't; I still have to look things up and occasionally refresh my knowledge on certain things if I'm to discuss something.

Anyway, how much stronger does IV'ing it feel compared to all the other methods, and how long does it last comparatively?

[stupid noob]

Originally Posted by kuman30

Oh well dude, I misspelled a word on a forum that's full of idiots anyway. I went to the regional spelling bee when I was in 7th grade so maybe that can earn me some kind of forgiveness for my little spelling boo boo?? Anyway, I'm not acting like a bachelors degree in chemistry makes me some kind of chem whiz kid of any kind because it really doesn't; I still have to look things up and occasionally refresh my knowledge on certain things if I'm to discuss something.

Anyway, how much stronger does IV'ing it feel compared to all the other methods, and how long does it last comparatively?

Lol someone with a supposed Bachelors in chemistry shouldn't be bragging about a spelling bee in 7th grade. Fail. And you don't need a piece of paper to be a whiz kid, look at me. It's called having a good memory. Formal education amounts to jack shit.

[mksnowboarder]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

Formal education amounts to jack shit.

Formal education gets you research grants and a paycheck. I'll go that route.

mike

[stupid noob]

Originally Posted by mksnowboarder

Formal education gets you research grants and a paycheck. I'll go that route.

mike

LOL are you serious? You let me know how that pans out. Good luck with that, really.

[Young Meth]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

LOL are you serious? You let me know how that pans out. Good luck with that, really.

ITT: A balding crippled 38 year old blows up

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by mksnowboarder

Formal education gets you research grants and a paycheck. I'll go that route.

Thank you sir, I never was even trying to start anything. But a formal education shows that you're capable of finishing something you start, and that's what employers like to see. I'm sorry I rustled your feathers or whatever stupid noob, I just thought it sounded like you didn't really know the difference between paper chemistry and how it actually turns out in the lab- like where you get terrible yields and have your solution leak out because you had a leak in your separator funnel or you waste five hours refluxing a Grignard reaction and wonder why your shit isn't working like everyone elses when you finally realize you washed your round bottom flask with methanol instead of acetone and apparently didn't dry it 100%. Shit just gets real sloppy.

[Young Meth]

SN: > *RUNS*

[stupid noob]

I am amused.

[Young Meth]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

I am amused.

Porsche truck lookin' like some chinese flavored duck sauce
Six cell phones got da trap spot jumpin off



STUPID NOOB, MOVIN THE CUT METH! THRU THE HOOOD!!!

[Internet Drug Wizard]

Originally Posted by stupid noob

I am amused.

The Internet Drug Wizard King Boss Number 1 Drug Master is amused???