I'm running Two AV programs.

[Virus]

One is AVG, the other is Avira Free.

I used to run spybot, but it is a resource hog.

Currently I'm trying to free up resources so things like AutoCAD and SolidWorks run faster.

Which one would you recommend keeping?

[Mutant Funk Drink]

I don't know, since I used to use AVG for a while and it didn't get rid of some malware I had so I dumped it for NOD32. I've never tried Avira.

Currently I'm running NOD32 and SpyNoMore. I cracked SpyNoMore, and I'm still trying to figure out how to reset the trial period for NOD32.

[Jack]

How did you even get both installed and running properly at once?

[Virus]

Originally Posted by Jack

How did you even get both installed and running properly at once?

By installing them then running them at boot for maximum protection:

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...rus_/twoav.jpg

Might have gone over your head a little, sailor.

[Jack]

No, genius, I mean how did you prevent conflicts in installation? I support AVG and a good number of calls are resolved by removing remnants of an old AV that was stopping installation because AVG detected it. I don't know how you get any AV installed with detectable bits of the last AV lying around, much less a full installation.

[Virus]

Originally Posted by Jack

No, genius, I mean how did you prevent conflicts in installation? I support AVG and a good number of calls are resolved by removing remnants of an old AV that was stopping installation because AVG detected it. I don't know how you get any AV installed with detectable bits of the last AV lying around, much less a full installation.

Simple, install them and activate them in the security center.

If you want specifics, I installed Avira the AVG, comodo, spybot,.... after I got paranoid about my computer. It just sounds like you have customers that are dumbasses who don't know how to install software.

Shape up sailor!

[L33tz]

NOD32 is a joke. I can make an uncrypted beast trojan and it wont pick it up.

[Stock Market Anomalies]

You're a fucking idiot, why would you bother installing both.

Uninstall Avira and install MBAM, leaving AVG installed.

[Mutant Funk Drink]

Originally Posted by L33tz

NOD32 is a joke. I can make an uncrypted beast trojan and it wont pick it up.

Well it was the only AV I could find that was able to completely disinfect my system, so there.

[Virus]

Originally Posted by Mcrjtn

You're a fucking idiot, why would you bother installing both.

Uninstall Avira and install MBAM, leaving AVG installed.

Well for starters things slip by Avira that AVG gets and things slip by AVG that Avira gets.

Why do you prefer AVG over Avira?

[InternetsDetectiveBoxer]

This is a complete waste of time. Finding viruses on Windows is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack. You are seriously naive if you think your anti-virus software stands any kind of a chance against a dedicated hacker - even a script kiddie. It's not hard to defeat anti-virus software and even if a hacker can't it doesn't change the fact that viruses amount to only a very small percentage of security problems so why even bother, the security industry can't keep up and neither can you.

This is very old but switch to Linux. It can even be Ubuntu. That's what I'm using now and it works well for a desktop operating system. Honestly I don't even know how you people put up with Windows and Microsoft's bull shit. I mean lets face it: they make a shit OS and they rub it in the user's faces by data mining them and raping them of their cash and system resources. It's bull shit.

[Angry Blue Bird of Death]

Antivirus isn't very useful, you're better off with alternate ways to secure your Windows PC.

[Mutant Funk Drink]

Originally Posted by InternetsDetectiveBoxer

This is a complete waste of time. Finding viruses on Windows is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack. You are seriously naive if you think your anti-virus software stands any kind of a chance against a dedicated hacker - even a script kiddie. It's not hard to defeat anti-virus software and even if a hacker can't it doesn't change the fact that viruses amount to only a very small percentage of security problems so why even bother, the security industry can't keep up and neither can you.

This is very old but switch to Linux. It can even be Ubuntu. That's what I'm using now and it works well for a desktop operating system. Honestly I don't even know how you people put up with Windows and Microsoft's bull shit. I mean lets face it: they make a shit OS and they rub it in the user's faces by data mining them and raping them of their cash and system resources. It's bull shit.

I like linux, but Windows is actually a great operating system. Otherwise individuals and companies wouldn't use it. Sure, it may be overpriced, but what else could Microsoft do to make Windows more "hacker proof" without turning it into the Fisher-Price OS that is Mac OS X? The only reasons I can see that Linux is safer than Windows is that all of the distros are varying, it is open source, and fewer people use it.

Aside from the occasional mistake of downloading an infected keygen, you'd have to be a complete idiot to have your system constantly get fucked up and hacked.

[Insomaniacal]

I've heard that running two AV's can cause a shitload of false positives.

And well, I do dislike Apple for their MacOSX, but it isn't really a "Fisher Price OS", you still have access to the terminal, and can do almost anything that you can do on a Unix machine with it as well. It is horribly overpriced though.

[Virus]

Originally Posted by InternetsDetectiveBoxer

This is a complete waste of time. Finding viruses on Windows is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack. You are seriously naive if you think your anti-virus software stands any kind of a chance against a dedicated hacker - even a script kiddie. It's not hard to defeat anti-virus software and even if a hacker can't it doesn't change the fact that viruses amount to only a very small percentage of security problems so why even bother, the security industry can't keep up and neither can you.

This is very old but switch to Linux. It can even be Ubuntu. That's what I'm using now and it works well for a desktop operating system. Honestly I don't even know how you people put up with Windows and Microsoft's bull shit. I mean lets face it: they make a shit OS and they rub it in the user's faces by data mining them and raping them of their cash and system resources. It's bull shit.

According to NIST, Windows is the most secure OS. My PC has never been fucked up, and I'm sticking to windows because it is better than *nix for what I do.

Granted, you act like the typical *nix idiot that doesn't know what he is doing do to lack of situational awareness. If you read the OP, you'd notice this:

Originally Posted by Virus

Currently I'm trying to free up resources so things like AutoCAD and SolidWorks run faster.

Neither of those work in WINE and maintain the ability to plot, so *nix doesn't work for me. I already run Fedora 12 so I can boot into it should something screw up on my vista side, but vista is so great, it doesn't screw up unless the user makes it screw up.

In terms of Windows being a piece of shit? It works out of the box, 100% of the time for the engineering related programs I use. On the other hand *nix just fails at everything I and the majority of people need a computer for. There's a reason Microsoft is at the top, and it's because they make a superior product that fills the need of the majority of computer users.

The great thing about system resources is you can select EXACTLY what you want and no more with MS. For example, I don't like the eye candy in vista, so I disabled it.

Bottom Line:

The only reason *nix appears to be more secure is because only a tiny fraction of people use it, so it is targeted less.

Originally Posted by Insomaniacal

I've heard that running two AV's can cause a shitload of false positives. .

I've only had one false positive in a year of running them.

[Syphilis]

I secure my Windows by downloading my porn on a Mac.

The only reason *nix appears to be more secure is because only a tiny fraction of people use it, so it is targeted less.

Incorrect. Any system worth hacking runs on UNIX (think servers etc). The entire system in more secure by design.

[LSA King]

AVG is bloated shitware, I thought it was nice and dandy for about 6 months before I was forced by the software to remove it. Not because it was a bad copy, it was the freeware version, but because it wouldn't let me visit sites that it blocked regardless of my authentication and I couldn't turn off the link scanner and download scanner where it would get to 99% then say "Oops Oh shit we detect this is bad software therefore its removed" without giving me the opportunity to say I want it anyways. Cracks, patches and keygens happen to give off those alarms and I know what is good and what isn't and the fact no matter what option I tried the damn thing just wouldn't shut off so I removed it and tried reinstalling it and it gave me an error which even on there own forums they said they don't know how to fix.

I then used Avira and loved it and didn't give me those crap detections and gave me the opportunity always to keep going.

In my opinion Avira is better then AVG, Avast is better then Avira and MSE trumps all when it comes to casual use not needing insane amount of thorough scanning on a minute to minute basis. AVG just slowed my computer to shit and it was a $2,000 laptop at the time.

[InternetsDetectiveBoxer]

Edit: WHAT WAZ EyE tHINKInG?! IWNdoWSZ RULEZ?!101jne!?

[EricFGregory]

Originally Posted by Virus

I'm running Two AV programs.

One is AVG, the other is Avira Free.

I used to run spybot, but it is a resource hog.

Currently I'm trying to free up resources so things like AutoCAD and SolidWorks run faster.

Which one would you recommend keeping?

What is highlighted in bold should be almost impossible.

I'm amazed you computer can still boot.
You are some sort of wizard with a horseshoe lodged up your ass.

Also, I prefer Avira.

[Lawlexander]

Two anti-virus programs=double the security you fucking noobs.

[Dfg]

Was using Eset Nod [Fuck the expiration]
Moved to Panda [Fucking useless]
Reverted back to Avira [Meh]
now using Microsoft Security Essentials [Pretty okay]

Going to move up to Eset Smart Security Business Edition [4.0].

[Mankonaut X]

I've used AVG and Avira each for more than a year, Avira's better in my opinion. AVG was starting to slow my computer down a lot and as someone else mentioned that link scanner is a prick of a thing. You can disable it but it won't shutup about it. They're about the same in terms of how many infections they pick up.

[InternetsDetectiveBoxer]

Originally Posted by Lawlexander

Two anti-virus programs=double the security you fucking noobs.

No.

[Mutant Funk Drink]

Originally Posted by InternetsDetectiveBoxer

No.

Why the fuck not? Just because the antivirus install says "Please uninstall other antivirus programs" doesn't mean you should.

[Jack]

Many AV installers simply will not proceed if they detect other AV installed, or remnants. Redundant security software tends to conflict. Now, many people I've spoken to don't really know what I mean by "conflict" so I'll spell it out for you. In order to detect and avoid circumvention by malware, AV must act like malware. Run gmer with AV installed and you'll see its drivers listed in the Rootkits tab. Why? Because the AV acts as a rootkit. If it has to play nice like all the other applications, it can't do its job.

When we have redundant AV installed, if we can even do such a thing, as hard as they make it, they'll usually flag or attack each other because they look like malware.

That aside, you will not get "double the security" by installing redundant security software. They all help stop the same malware. All you'll do with shit like this is waste system resources and look like a retard when people see your system tray.

[Mankonaut X]

Originally Posted by Jack

Many AV installers simply will not proceed if they detect other AV installed, or remnants. Redundant security software tends to conflict. Now, many people I've spoken to don't really know what I mean by "conflict" so I'll spell it out for you. In order to detect and avoid circumvention by malware, AV must act like malware. Run gmer with AV installed and you'll see its drivers listed in the Rootkits tab. Why? Because the AV acts as a rootkit. If it has to play nice like all the other applications, it can't do its job.

When we have redundant AV installed, if we can even do such a thing, as hard as they make it, they'll usually flag or attack each other because they look like malware.

That aside, you will not get "double the security" by installing redundant security software. They all help stop the same malware. All you'll do with shit like this is waste system resources and look like a retard when people see your system tray.

So you're saying AVs are the Vic Mackeys of virus protection? I feel a lot cooler all of a sudden

[Virus]

Originally Posted by EricFGregory

What is highlighted in bold should be almost impossible.

I'm amazed you computer can still boot.
You are some sort of wizard with a horseshoe lodged up your ass.

Also, I prefer Avira.

Well, you've got the screenshots of it working. I can't help that I'm so good that I can do the impossible daily.

[zecklips]

ever try malwarebytes?

[InternetsDetectiveBoxer]

With the multiple layers of dumbass I've managed to find in this thread I now feel like Zen Master Dogen.

[09373472]

AVIRA will catch more viruses than AVG, and it doesn't seem to use as much on resources. Win/win.

[Virus]

Originally Posted by InternetsDetectiveBoxer

With the multiple layers of dumbass I've managed to find in this thread I now feel like Zen Master Dogen.

Yeah you can't beat the dumbass comments this guy made:

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showpost.p...2&postcount=11

Originally Posted by 09373472

AVIRA will catch more viruses than AVG, and it doesn't seem to use as much on resources. Win/win.

I cut AVG, kept Avira, and my drafting + CAE programs work better. Now to find a crack for solidworks.....

[DJ Meaty Cheeks]

I run AVG, Malwarebytes and Adaware. They all seem to play nice together, probably because they all have somewhat different targets. Gets rid of most of shit. Vundo was a bitch though, holy fuck.

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Don't run as admin (if you're using Vista/7, configure UAC properly), use a virtual machine to test questionable files (or disassemble them, either way), keep up to date and run a system integrity check once in a while (run -> 'sfc /scannow' from memory). You shouldn't really need an antivirus program.

The only real reasons *nix derivatives appear more stable than windows are A) because linux, bsd etc come right out and tell you you're a tool if you run as root all the time, B) the ports/packages repositories being centralised and verified (this doesn't work so well for non-open source software) and C) they only install what you request from the base package, leaving out things that you don't use and may leave misconfigured (though this doesn't apply to many linux distros).

[v0x]

If you're only going to pick between the two, run Avira. It's miles better than AVG.

If you want suggestions, convert to Linux and install DeepFreeze.

[v0x]

If you're only going to pick between the two, run Avira. It's miles better than AVG.

If you want suggestions, convert to Linux and install DeepFreeze.