How to make the move towards sex.

[Death_Merchant]

I know lots of guys have a problem when it comes to fucking a woman for the first time. You're not quite sure if she's ready, you hesitate, and you miss a lot of opportunities in the process.

First, you must understand how women think in this situation. The thing is, women don't often initiate sex. It's really rare in my experience, although I do know of some exceptions. A lot of women don't because they're worried about being called or labeled a slut.

So you're making out with your girl, things are going well, and you want to progress further. At some point, the woman will have a moment of hesitation. When this happens, she'll say something like, "I don't want to go all the way tonight","I don't know", "I don't want to have sex tonight". The thing is, woman want sex just as bad as us guys. If you are horned right up, most likely she is too. If she wasn't, why would she make such a comment about not wanting sex if all you're doing is making out? It's a sign that she thinks that's where things are going if you continue. The important part is that she is thinking about sex, so you have a great chance of getting some.

However, this is when most guys pussy out and miss their chance. They listen to what she says, and they give up. You think you're respecting her wishes, or you don't want to make her mad, so you stop and don't get laid. The thing about women, is they like a man who takes what he wants.

So this is what you do. If she tells you she's not sure, that she doesn't want sex, blah blah blah, you say, "no problem", without being disappointed or getting mad. Then, just continue on making out with her with the knowledge that making out with her is what was leading to sex in her mind. 9 out of 10 times she'll keep making out with you too, cause women don't have a clue that this is what's going on. Then just slowly progress to petting above the clothes, then below the clothes, warming her up and getting her really horny. You may then get another warning that she doesn't want sex. My advice is when you're making out with her, you get between her legs so your dick is pressed up against her crotch. Then start with some dry humping, so she gets thoughts of you fucking her in her head. At some point, her resistance will be overcome by her wanting to fuck you, and you're good to go.

The only time you should stop, and you'll know you should, is when she says "no, get off of me", and will physically push you off. Then you should stop. If she doesn't, she just wants to be able to rationalize away that she put up resistance and didn't just give it out, so she doesn't feel like a slut.

Hope this was informative.

[PROJECT PAT]

tldr

[Chavinist]

Good stuff. Very good stuff. I like this shit because it's an issue that isn't commonly addressed.

Token resistance, it's not her fault if she tried to stop it.

[Im Bored]

They should teach this shit in school.

[Wooden Pints]

No means go.

[calatron]

It's good but not original. It almost sounds like a direct quote from Mystery bullshit. It's still something everyone needs to read about. I've even called girls out on this very thing and then went ahead and to bone them.

I've also taken the sympathetic approach and held off on fucking them if I knew I'd see her again. I'd get things to the breaking point and then just eject or stop escalating. That resistance won't be there next time you see her because she'll still want you, only more than before and she'll admit it this time. The tension also makes for a great first experience.

[FireStarter]

Just push em on their backs and have at it.

[T.K. Baha]

I usually start by feeding her pills and whiskey.

[Daily]

Originally Posted by Death_Merchant

The only time you should rape, and you'll know you should, is when she says "no, get off of me", and will physically push you off..

Fixed.

[Agent 008]

They also do it so that later, if they want to, they can say in court that they did say "no" but you proceeded to "rape" them.

You've got to give women more credit, man. They are not stupid.

[JFish15]

Good shit mate.. I've fucked this part up of the seduction up a billion times. Made out lots of touching, but hands and shit would lock up when it comes to putting a hand down her pants or making her hand touch you or however feels natural, and I would start thinking "so how do I go about this" and the second you start thinking about shit you're fucked.. the worst is when you're getting down with a girl and she tries to give you that "I'm not that kind of girl" bullshit when you know some of her stories. Girls wanna act as is they had no choice and "it just happened" thus they're able to maintain their guilt-free conscience.

Once you get that whole "virgin stink" off you though your eyes should be opened and you'll become sexually enlightened so you never get caught hesitating ever again. I don't know if this applies to all girls, but once I get her to show the neck and start kissing and aggressively sucking and a little light vampirish teeth action maybe and all of that, it's over.. dont worry about getting her too lathered up in your saliva, that's something to consider later if at all, just be in the fuckin zone. Anyway at that point we're definitely going to screw.

And don't try and be too soft and gentle, as things get hotter grab her and make her straddle you and start dry humping and run your fingernails down her back and grab that ass forcefully and be a man.. Don't like give her a really hard exaggerated slap on the ass or anything like that scene in Along Came Polly though because that's a little weird more often than not.

Believe it or not, girls like to be manhandled a bit when they start getting revved up, it's all about escalation. Keep being soft and gentle and you're going to be stuck in a loop that makes her end up turning her butt to you and telling you good night. Don't get caught up worrying about what she would like, take her along for a ride, you can worry about that next time after you've already sexed her up once.

I wish someone would've just told me not to think about it and just force your will upon her and take it in the direction you want it to go, once you start acting like boundaries exist, they do. So whatever, take her bra off suck on her titties, there's no science to the shit. It's really so fuckin easy unless you're a pussy boy like I was and think about it.

[hotbod]

its easy

talk>kiss>touch boob>wait for her to touch dick>sex


not to hard

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by hotbod

its easy

talk>kiss>touch boob>wait for her to touch dick>sex


not to hard

haha that is the wackest ass shit I've ever heard.. I'll randomly just kiss and squeeze a boob in the middle of wal-mart you know, just because it's nice to have a titty to grab, that doesn't get her turned on.. she's so used to her boobs being touched at random that she doesn't even realize I'm touching her inappropriately in public most the time. I usually spoon with my hand up her shirt with one of her naked titties in hand when we go to bed she's not exactly reaching back and playing with my shit. Now if you were to go up her shirt and pull them out and get them nice and wet with your tongue and have fun with it down there now that's

[RealGangstaAssNigga]

If you don't have troubles getting laid regularly, you can also just straight-up stop when she plays those games. She's as horny as you are, yet she wants to absolve herself of all responsibility for what's going to happen. As soon as she says "stop" or "I don't want to have sex" just say "alright" and turn on the TV without a care in the world. Half the time the girl will then try to convince you that she changed her mind. The other half the time she'll feel like an idiot but won't say anything.

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by RealGangstaAssNigga

If you don't have troubles getting laid regularly, you can also just straight-up stop when she plays those games. She's as horny as you are, yet she wants to absolve herself of all responsibility for what's going to happen. As soon as she says "stop" or "I don't want to have sex" just say "alright" and turn on the TV without a care in the world. Half the time the girl will then try to convince you that she changed her mind. The other half the time she'll feel like an idiot but won't say anything.

It's sad though when you start losing your wood that got worked up real nicely, it's harder to get it back and build up more momentum when that shit happens, and this is all assuming she wont be stubborn to prove a point. That seems the most likely scenario, in my case that's what would happen anyway.

[thendoftheline]

Yup. Sure, I haven't gotten as much as you fellas probably.. but it's always been a first nighter for me. If she want's you, she want's you.. you just got to convince her (with your bodies) that it's always the right time for some lovin'

[Agent 008]

Originally Posted by kuman30

It's sad though when you start losing your wood that got worked up real nicely, it's harder to get it back and build up more momentum when that shit happens, and this is all assuming she wont be stubborn to prove a point. That seems the most likely scenario, in my case that's what would happen anyway.

What?

I can easily continue from where I left off hours later.

[hotbod]

if its your first time with her and youre kissing and shit and youre ready to fuck and shes like "im not gonna fuck" you say "haha of course not" than next time you're mackin and she trys to pull that shit again you say "leave bitch", but usually you just have to wait till the second meeting cause they dont want to feel like a slut.

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by SHODAN

What?

I can easily continue from where I left off hours later.

I can hours later when I'm not pissed off at her bullshit, but not stop and try again while I'm still pissed off about it and go back to square 1. If she's sticking to her guns and being stubborn I usually just ask for the consolation handjob. It's not the WORST thing in the world, they can be pretty nice though if she lets you finger her and makes out with you during, sometimes they're kind of a nice change up.

[calatron]

Originally Posted by RealGangstaAssNigga

If you don't have troubles getting laid regularly, you can also just straight-up stop when she plays those games. She's as horny as you are, yet she wants to absolve herself of all responsibility for what's going to happen. As soon as she says "stop" or "I don't want to have sex" just say "alright" and turn on the TV without a care in the world. Half the time the girl will then try to convince you that she changed her mind. The other half the time she'll feel like an idiot but won't say anything.

It's almost like there is a mentally handicapped echo in here.

Don't turn the TV on, it's a dick move. My earlier advice is better if you feel like denying the girl. I forgot, no one reads my posts.

Originally Posted by kuman30

It's sad though when you start losing your wood that got worked up real nicely, it's harder to get it back and build up more momentum when that shit happens, and this is all assuming she wont be stubborn to prove a point. That seems the most likely scenario, in my case that's what would happen anyway.

lolwut? If you're over the age of 30, I might see how this could be a problem. I'm 23 and never have issues like this. In fact I have no refractory period either.

And why would you be pissed off? You sound like a tool. You make it sound like erections actually require work. 'Round here it just takes some boobies or that look and it's party time.

Stop beating off so much.

[Cathy McGee]

comming from a girl.


Get her drunk.

[Chavinist]

Originally Posted by anr

comming from a girl.


Get her drunk.

Hey, no girls allowed!

P.S: Drunk lays suck ass and it's dishonorable in my opinion. But still, it's the thought that counts

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by calatron

And why would you be pissed off? You sound like a tool. You make it sound like erections actually require work.[/b]

They do man if you start to get seeing each other every single day and you start to get sick of each others attitudes a bit and when getting hot and steamy for no reason whatsoever she says, "No, we can do this later tonight, we have things to do" When in reality there isn't shit to do and you get pissed off that instead of just going with the flow she says no just for the sake of exercising the right to say no. Then at that point she knows your intentions that you want to have sex with her and she freezes up. You've never spent TOO much time with a girl where you started getting bored with each other?

I don't understand how that makes me sound like a tool because I can't achieve the full raging boner state I was able to reach when shit was all good and natural the first time around. And when she knows you're just trying to butter her up and stuff so you can have sex she'll want to resist, and that's when you get frustrated and annoyed, not really pissed off I guess. Fuck. Shut the fuck up, If I was talking about a new girl/first encounter then you'd be right.

[hotbod]

Originally Posted by Pope John Paul MCCCXXXVII

no girl i know is going to want to sit on a bed and say lets fuck

sometimes if you get them cigarettes they'll do that

[calatron]

Originally Posted by kuman30

They do man if you start to get seeing each other every single day and you start to get sick of each others attitudes a bit and when getting hot and steamy for no reason whatsoever she says, "No, we can do this later tonight, we have things to do" When in reality there isn't shit to do and you get pissed off that instead of just going with the flow she says no just for the sake of exercising the right to say no. Then at that point she knows your intentions that you want to have sex with her and she freezes up. You've never spent TOO much time with a girl where you started getting bored with each other?

I don't understand how that makes me sound like a tool because I can't achieve the full raging boner state I was able to reach when shit was all good and natural the first time around. And when she knows you're just trying to butter her up and stuff so you can have sex she'll want to resist, and that's when you get frustrated and annoyed, not really pissed off I guess. Fuck. Shut the fuck up, If I was talking about a new girl/first encounter then you'd be right.

I spent 2.5 years with the same girl and she was a cold bitch sometimes doing the exact shit you're talking about. I'd get pissed at her but I could still get it up.

[Lman1578]

Originally Posted by hotbod

sometimes if you get them cigarettes they'll do that

Or money.

[hotbod]

Originally Posted by Chunkanese

Or money.

true that. i was paying my ex for sex, it all started out with bumming a cigarette.

[Death_Merchant]

Originally Posted by Chunkanese

Or money.

If I'm paying, they better clean up the mess and leave immediately afterwards. I expect my junk to be spit polished if I'm paying enough.

[JFish15]

Originally Posted by calatron

I spent 2.5 years with the same girl and she was a cold bitch sometimes doing the exact shit you're talking about. I'd get pissed at her but I could still get it up.

my equipment works just fine, it just would've been more grand had it happened sooner. It'd be cool if it didn't though cuz then I could get that viagra hookup, that shit leads to epic boning sessions. There's nothing cooler than seeing your shit lay down for a second after you do your thing and then instantly pop right back up unassisted. They're expensive as shit though.

[Death_Merchant]

Originally Posted by RealGangstaAssNigga

If you don't have troubles getting laid regularly, you can also just straight-up stop when she plays those games. She's as horny as you are, yet she wants to absolve herself of all responsibility for what's going to happen. As soon as she says "stop" or "I don't want to have sex" just say "alright" and turn on the TV without a care in the world. Half the time the girl will then try to convince you that she changed her mind. The other half the time she'll feel like an idiot but won't say anything.

You know when women say they don't like guys who play games? They're talking about you. I don't play games, and I just ignore them and take control of the situation. What you are doing is letting her control the situation, cause by you reacting, she has control of the situation. If you aren't getting laid, then she has control. I get laid whenever I want, no bitching, and no complaining. Drama is for bitches.

[Death_Merchant]

Originally Posted by kuman30

my equipment works just fine, it just would've been more grand had it happened sooner. It'd be cool if it didn't though cuz then I could get that viagra hookup, that shit leads to epic boning sessions. There's nothing cooler than seeing your shit lay down for a second after you do your thing and then instantly pop right back up unassisted. They're expensive as shit though.

My dick stays hard even after I cum. Don't need any pills to make it happen.

[harry_hardcore_hoedown]

ITT: Virgins pretending to be players.

[hotbod]

Originally Posted by harry_hardcore_hoedown

ITT: Virgins pretending to be players.

im a playa playa fo sho

[FireStarter]

Originally Posted by harry_hardcore_hoedown

ITT: Virgins pretending to be players.

No shit eh?

[Sentinel owl]

Originally Posted by Death_Merchant

I know lots of guys have a problem when it comes to fucking a woman for the first time. You're not quite sure if she's ready, you hesitate, and you miss a lot of opportunities in the process.

First, you must understand how women think in this situation. The thing is, women don't often initiate sex. It's really rare in my experience, although I do know of some exceptions. A lot of women don't because they're worried about being called or labeled a slut.

So you're making out with your girl, things are going well, and you want to progress further. At some point, the woman will have a moment of hesitation. When this happens, she'll say something like, "I don't want to go all the way tonight","I don't know", "I don't want to have sex tonight". The thing is, woman want sex just as bad as us guys. If you are horned right up, most likely she is too. If she wasn't, why would she make such a comment about not wanting sex if all you're doing is making out? It's a sign that she thinks that's where things are going if you continue. The important part is that she is thinking about sex, so you have a great chance of getting some.

However, this is when most guys pussy out and miss their chance. They listen to what she says, and they give up. You think you're respecting her wishes, or you don't want to make her mad, so you stop and don't get laid. The thing about women, is they like a man who takes what he wants.

So this is what you do. If she tells you she's not sure, that she doesn't want sex, blah blah blah, you say, "no problem", without being disappointed or getting mad. Then, just continue on making out with her with the knowledge that making out with her is what was leading to sex in her mind. 9 out of 10 times she'll keep making out with you too, cause women don't have a clue that this is what's going on. Then just slowly progress to petting above the clothes, then below the clothes, warming her up and getting her really horny. You may then get another warning that she doesn't want sex. My advice is when you're making out with her, you get between her legs so your dick is pressed up against her crotch. Then start with some dry humping, so she gets thoughts of you fucking her in her head. At some point, her resistance will be overcome by her wanting to fuck you, and you're good to go.

The only time you should stop, and you'll know you should, is when she says "no, get off of me", and will physically push you off. Then you should stop. If she doesn't, she just wants to be able to rationalize away that she put up resistance and didn't just give it out, so she doesn't feel like a slut.

Hope this was informative.

So basically rape her.

[Mor3BL7]

Originally Posted by PROJECT PAT

tldr

Good, Because youll never lose your virginity anyways.

[DJ Meaty Cheeks]

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2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bb5 a6

[RealGangstaAssNigga]

Originally Posted by Death_Merchant

You know when women say they don't like guys who play games? They're talking about you. I don't play games, and I just ignore them and take control of the situation. What you are doing is letting her control the situation, cause by you reacting, she has control of the situation. If you aren't getting laid, then she has control. I get laid whenever I want, no bitching, and no complaining. Drama is for bitches.

There is no such thing as not playing games. By not playing games you're playing a game, you just have to consider to what degree you're committing yourself.

Sex is just sex. It's awesome, but it's not like the world is going to run out of available sex. Why would you want to screw around with a girl who is setting the groundwork for a potential rape case? Or if she just doesn't want to come off as a slut then she's obviously a superficial moron who thinks that feebly saying no and playing off the technicality makes the difference. Fuck. That. If a girl is going to mess around like that then it's far more satisfying to say "alright, no sex" and do something else enjoyable. Fuck mind games, just don't even bother. Zero effort.

[Nero]

You make it sound like that's the ritual every time you have sex. Girls won't turn you down, and if they do, it's not for that reason. No girl is going to care about looking like a slut if it's just in front of the guy she's fucking.

Holy shit.

[Death_Merchant]

Originally Posted by Chi

You make it sound like that's the ritual every time you have sex. Girls won't turn you down, and if they do, it's not for that reason. No girl is going to care about looking like a slut if it's just in front of the guy she's fucking.

Holy shit.

It's not a ritual, it's just usually how it is the first time with most women. There are more reasons than just looking slutty though. A lot of it has to do with the nature of women. Women want men who dominate them. Men who push for the things they want in life get what they want way more often than men who don't. This attitude is what leads to more success, cause you're a stronger and a better mate.

It's not just as simple as getting laid though, it's about establishing dominance over her. By basically controlling the situation and thus controlling how she takes part in it, you're establishing dominance.

It might be silly, but establishing dominance over your woman or women, determines a lot of things. The biggest one, is the dynamic of your relationship. Do you want to make the major decisions? Decide when you're having sex? Keep her from sleeping with other men? You can only do these things if you are dominant over her.

If a woman has dominance over you, she'll decide when you get sex, she'll decide major decisions, and probably even the small ones. You don't want to be the guy who has to ask to hang out with his friends. The worst part is, she'll be really likely to cheat on you with guys who can dominate her.

In my relationship with my GF, she does what I tell her she can. I have control over everything from the progression of the relationship, to how much sex I get. Even when she gets upset and emotional, I tell her how to feel. She actually has this constant urge to make and keep me happy. If a guy asked to hang out with her, she'd say no, cause she knows I wouldn't be pleased. Women who are dominant, would hang out with the guy, cause they'll think there is nothing wrong with hanging out with a guy that she knows tempts her, cause you don't own her (feminist rant). Then, before you know it, she fucks the guy. Then she'll make up this whole emotional thing to remove the self blame, by thinking things like, " It wouldn't have happened if you gave me more attention", and the list goes on. You'll probably never find out, and she'll probably never even feel bad. The most likely thing, is she'll actually be mad at you because of how she took the blame off herself. Often a result is suddenly getting accused of cheating, when you haven't, or even given her reason to think that. She's likely masking what she did, and blaming you. Loyalty comes from domination over your woman.

To circle back to my point, it all stems back to the point where you take her body for your own use, sealing the deal that you're in charge. I have never been charged, cause women want me to dominate them and love it. My GF actually loves me because I create an entire structure for her life, with me in control, and she is free from all burdens of decisions, and even her own feelings.

I know the stuff I've said about women being dominant in relationships is absolutely true. I've met quite a few of these women in my life, and all of them wanted to sleep with me. Some wanted to fuck me in the next room while their husband slept, or even right in front of their BF. One even told me in conversation that if I initiated sex, she wouldn't stop me. They'd put themselves in situations with me where we'd be alone, and nobody would know, just hoping I'd control them and tell them to suck my cock, fuck them, and make them swallow my cum. If you aren't in control, be prepared to deal with a lot of crap.

I once actually told my GF she was happy because I dominated her. In her past relationship, she was dominant, and she even told me she put herself in bad situations, just like I stated above. Luckily for her ex, non of those guys took dominance over her. With me, she avoids all bad situations. She wouldn't even think of dancing with another guy. She's really happy too. When I told her why, she responded with this. "I don't like being dominated!" I replied," Yes you do", then stated several situations where me dominating her, made her happy. She then said," You're right, I like being dominated and controlled by you", and then just asked me not to call her submissive. She didn't want me to say it that way, cause dominating and controlling a women has been turned into a negative thing by feminist liberal media.