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Old 12-11-2009, 07:22 PM
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i just saw it, i thought it was very sad, the poor guy, made me very sad actualy.
what did you think of it?
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:31 PM
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i just saw it, i thought it was very sad, the poor guy, made me very sad actualy.
what did you think of it?
Which one did you see, the new one or the old one?
And why not post this in TV and Movies?
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Which one did you see, the new one or the old one?
And why not post this in TV and Movies?
the new one, i l watch the old one whenever i can.
this is in here because lets be onest, how long would it stay before it got put here?
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Old 12-12-2009, 07:21 AM
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I thought the book was pretty good.

Tbh, I got a boner. LOL

Glad it's gaining popularity. Just for the sake of people expanding their. Minds?
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Glad it's gaining popularity. Just for the sake of people expanding their. Minds?
It's been popular for a while actually.
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I thought the book was pretty good.

Tbh, I got a boner. LOL

Glad it's gaining popularity. Just for the sake of people expanding their. Minds?
That's strange, other than while you were reading that, did you ever have feeling for minors?



Because I have, and I must say I hated that book. I mean,
First Humbert drugs her, then not long after he has sex with her. And the whole time Lo doesn't really seem to enjoy it, not just the sex but being dragged around the US to do things Humbert thinks is fun for her.
I couldn't even finish the book because it was just stupid, it could have been more romantic (Or romantic at all!) and in the story they could have BOTH enjoyed each others company more. I know i'm just ranting about some fictional story, but shit I just don't understand all the hype about it.



That said, I did hear the movie(s) are supposed to be better in those senses, and I think the old one looks better because in the new one Lo is older I think......


I just wish someone would write a real, good ligi/pedo Romance Novel, lol
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That's strange, other than while you were reading that, did you ever have feeling for minors?



Because I have, and I must say I hated that book. I mean,
First Humbert drugs her, then not long after he has sex with her. And the whole time Lo doesn't really seem to enjoy it, not just the sex but being dragged around the US to do things Humbert thinks is fun for her.
I couldn't even finish the book because it was just stupid, it could have been more romantic (Or romantic at all!) and in the story they could have BOTH enjoyed each others company more. I know i'm just ranting about some fictional story, but shit I just don't understand all the hype about it.



That said, I did hear the movie(s) are supposed to be better in those senses, and I think the old one looks better because in the new one Lo is older I think......


I just wish someone would write a real, good ligi/pedo Romance Novel, lol
OMG LOL, they had enough issues getting lolita first the book, published, let into countries, in australia it took two years to release it, dream on my freind, dream on.
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OMG LOL, they had enough issues getting lolita first the book, published, let into countries, in australia it took two years to release it, dream on my freind, dream on.
Yes, true, but you realize that book was published in like the late 50's or 60's, this is now. Besides, the only people that would really want to read it would probably be us weirdos of society that are attracted to minors and have internet access, so maybe whoever writes it can just make it some huge text file online.



Though nobodies going to waste their time with something like that to gain no profit.......
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SKUV -

I think I might've read only half of it, not actually up to the point where they had sex.

So I couldn't judge whether it was evil pedo or not.

Otherwise, you're right it wasn't terribly amazing. Not that good erotica.

You made me reflect more so yeah I retract my "pretty good".

I DUNNO.

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I just wish someone would write a real, good ligi/pedo Romance Novel, lol
I could. Though it'd be in the form of a loli aide assisting a Fleet Admiral or something, similar to Ralf and Vetti in Glass Fleet.. I loled when I first saw them, close to what I envisioned for an idea. Close. When I first saw Rolf I swore that was a girl, but no that's a dude I fucking loled @ that, that's seriously close to what I was looking for in the story.

Note romance is not something I am interested in writing or good at.

Oh. No I haven't read the novel. I have better things to read than smut, like.....Lensman
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Yes, true, but you realize that book was published in like the late 50's or 60's, this is now. Besides, the only people that would really want to read it would probably be us weirdos of society that are attracted to minors and have internet access,
You are aware that some people theorized the whole relationshit was a metaphore for Stalinism fucking up the USSR, correct? You can intrepret it as that.

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so maybe whoever writes it can just make it some huge text file online.
Look it up, there probably is such stories written.

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Though nobodies going to waste their time with something like that to gain no profit.......
You don't watch much anime
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I could. Though it'd be in the form of a loli aide assisting a Fleet Admiral or something, similar to Ralf and Vetti in Glass Fleet.. I loled when I first saw them, close to what I envisioned for an idea. Close. When I first saw Rolf I swore that was a girl, but no that's a dude

Note romance is not something I am interested in writing or good at.

Oh. No I haven't read the novel. I have better things to read than smut, like.....Lensman
*facepalm*

Why must everything you write have to do with space?! I mean I know your name is SWF for a reason, but damn.

On an almost separate note, since you like anime and all, have you ever seen kodomo no jikan?

I tried writing my own erotica, but that was back when I was smoking pot every day, so it turned out really vague and directionless. I think I could do much better now, I just don't know when i'm going to get around to writing it.



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Otherwise, you're right it wasn't terribly amazing. Not that good erotica.

Maybe you are spoiled by the old totse kiddie erotica, as I am too



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Old 12-19-2009, 01:44 AM
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Why must everything you write have to do with space?! I mean I know your name is SWF for a reason, but damn.
Because I am obscessed with space opera and sci-fi. That's part of why I chose that name in 2005, ya know. And why my other username, Warsie means "rabid star wars fan on the same level as a trekkie" man. I have my issues and addictions man

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Fuck yeah. I read the official manga and have the doujins. I know several people IRL who read the manga from an animu club, and are also lolicon. I know this girl who reads the official manga as she says it's a 'deconstruction' of the lolicon genre....even though IIRC there were similar stories and studies on this shit for year, eh. (she goes on tvtropes)....BUT. She says having the doujins is "creepy". I loled.

EDIT: Plan on watching the actual anime lol.

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Start writing now. Or save shit/imcomplete ideas jotted down in your head on textfiles so you can organize it later. That's how I do my creative writing. Save snippets on possible spaceship classifications and roles, or my universe's history....and later on you can build from them and connect them like a jigsaw puzzle.
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Because I am obscessed with space opera and sci-fi. That's part of why I chose that name in 2005, ya know. And why my other username, Warsie means "rabid star wars fan on the same level as a trekkie" man. I have my issues and addictions man
lol, I actually read somewhere that cops found out that many people they bust for CP were also huge Star Trek fans, lol.


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Fuck yeah. I read the official manga and have the doujins. I know several people IRL who read the manga from an animu club, and are also lolicon. I know this girl who reads the official manga as she says it's a 'deconstruction' of the lolicon genre....even though IIRC there were similar stories and studies on this shit for year, eh. (she goes on tvtropes)....BUT. She says having the doujins is "creepy". I loled.

EDIT: Plan on watching the actual anime lol.
I read the manga on mangafox up to like chapter 20something.... I just never got around to reading the rest yet. lol I don't know what tvtropes or doujins is/are, but i'm guessing doujins are those little figure things?

And the anime is good, I actually watched the second episode I downloaded last night.

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Start writing now. Or save shit/imcomplete ideas jotted down in your head on textfiles so you can organize it later. That's how I do my creative writing. Save snippets on possible spaceship classifications and roles, or my universe's history....and later on you can build from them and connect them like a jigsaw puzzle.
I can just keep the ideas in my head if I think of any, like in the story I started I have the male pedo character always have some dreams about some random ligi before he wakes up for the day. But then as he gets closer to the loli character way later in the story, he starts to have dreams about her instead
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lol, I actually read somewhere that cops found out that many people they bust for CP were also huge Star Trek fans, lol.
lol. I remember people discussing that shit in 2005. Toronto Sex Crimes unit making a joke when they bust people for downloading/seeding kiddy porn: "So, are they Star Trek or Star Wars fans". I don't think people were able to prove that Trekkies and Warsies were more likely to download/seed CP and there wasn't much of a connection. Remember some rabid antis on this star wars vs. star trek forum whining and saying "we're not like them" and getting into a baww and shitfest over them. Then again those are the faggots who flame you and ban you if you're "stupid".

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I read the manga on mangafox up to like chapter 20something.... I just never got around to reading the rest yet.
I forgot how far I got up to (I didn't get too far), need to re-d/l it all (the official manga).

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lol I don't know what tvtropes or doujins is/are, but i'm guessing doujins are those little figure things?
Tvtropes is a site (a wiki) that categorizes all sorts of media tropes and things that go on over and over in media; as an example the 'Wave Motion Gun' page on Tvtropes describes the big-ass guns you see on spaceships that blow shit up - named after the Wave Motion Gun in the 1970s anime Space Battleship Yamato. You might find it interesting for your story ideas and possibilities. Tvtropes got really popular among nerds in the past few months or so, I remember when only people who posted on science fiction forums knew of it. Now I know several people IRL who know that site

EDIT: oh, that site can be addicting. Forewarning.

Doujins are small-production manga. Unofficial manga of a story, or a hentai of characters in an official manga, etc. Japanese companies aren't as anal-retentive on copyrights as American companies are and don't care and manga artists who start with doujins like that can get popular.

Well actually Doujin simply means it's small and probably self-published, so Doujin can apply to video games, and other stuff.

The figurines are something else, but related in that Otaku and weeaboo might like doing that.

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And the anime is good, I actually watched the second episode I downloaded last night.
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Have you seen Strike Witches yet? It's magical loli catgirls with world war 2 weaponry fighting off an alien invasion in alternative universe Europe. Sky Girls is similar, but it's set in a more modern era.

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I can just keep the ideas in my head if I think of any, like in the story I started I have the male pedo character always have some dreams about some random ligi before he wakes up for the day. But then as he gets closer to the loli character way later in the story, he starts to have dreams about her instead
It may help to write it down as that would mean you get engaged and can write more. Or you forget it, which can be annoying FFFFFFFFFFFFF.

lol. Write a chapter of a dude taking his loli girlfriend out in the city and shit. Giving her info on buildings and city history, how the subway/rapid transit works, etc. Or taking her to a pier for a carnival or parade. Wonder how she'd react if you took her to a Gay Pride parade or something

Let your imagination FLOW!!!! (cliche but true mah nigga ).

That and far-out of thie world shit like living with a loli on a lunar colony...but ill stop the sci-fi now
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lol. Write a chapter of a dude taking his loli girlfriend out in the city and shit. Giving her info on buildings and city history, how the subway/rapid transit works, etc. Or taking her to a pier for a carnival or parade. Wonder how she'd react if you took her to a Gay Pride parade or something
lol i was thinking that if you bought a realy wide sky scraper and then put hundreds of peds in the top like 50 floors then you could have like a society of people, like families and stuff that just lived up there, and lolilove was allowed, imagine going to the pool and it being all steamy and you taking care of her, although in a sense i dont think loli love should be flaunted, it should sortof be secretive and something you two share toghether.

tbh the most romantic loli story i can think of is you are the stepfarther or the neighbour of a single mom and the loli comes round and stuff, i read one on amaros, the girl was six and there was a little boy her age next door so she went round, and his dad would read to them and she would sit on his lap and he would rub her tummy, and she said she always felt so warm and loved, and he would always ask her first, and if she said no he would never ask again, and then in brackets(it only happened twice, once when he asked me to "suck" him and one other time) my only critisism is that she lost it at 12 to his SON? i dont like the idea of you sharing something like that with your son, its a little objectifiying, and i m not sure how that would work out, i have and i m sure you have too(ok no you havent but still), read many stories about how little girls were touched or something and it wasent explained to them that it was special and then they became sluts, because sex was a "feel good game" i dont think this is very romantic, "20 years later, i see her everyday, she is a pornstar "
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lol i was thinking that if you bought a realy wide sky scraper and then put hundreds of peds in the top like 50 floors then you could have like a society of people, like families and stuff that just lived up there, and lolilove was allowed, imagine going to the pool and it being all steamy and you taking care of her, although in a sense i dont think loli love should be flaunted, it should sortof be secretive and something you two share toghether.
Heard of the concept of Urban Tribes, and Neo-Tribalism? It's what the Bohemians throughout hisory did, from the artists in Paris in the 1800s to Hippie Communes in San Francisco and other parts of the USA and Western Europe in the 1960s, to all sorts of places in large cities currently (New York, Rio De Janeiro and Sao Paolo, Shanghai, etc.). I think the movie Shortbus deals with an example, and Rent is a similar movie.

I had something like that as a concept for a cyberpunk story im working on. Neighborhoods not segregated by race, but things like sexual orientation (leading to pedophile ghettoes), neurological wiring (autistic & ADHD hoods for mutual support), etc. That, and say the buildings designed to fit as such an internal tribe - maybe putting 2-3 apartments and demolishing the walls in-between them so it's a structure that could accomodate such tribes. That, and say varying tribes forming communes, from which people choose elected representatives, which form the city government (city soviet), from there so on and so on.........

Thanks for reminding me of an idea to flesh out.

Also the concept of a United States of Africa has something related in terms of tribalism in a multinational state; a certa in basic set of laws the state enforces, and local laws that the tribe enforces for marriages, deaths, etc. Though normally such tribes or nations are given their own states (see the Soviet Union's policy in re-districting so their constituent peoples were in their own nation-state - Belarus and Ukraine were formed such. That and the nations in Soviet Central Asia, Lenin put a lot of work into self-determination in that regard)

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EDIT: Another link on urban tribes. They seem to be similar to the youth gangs of the 1800s and....the youth gangs of today (urban ghettoes in America. "My homeboy" and shit). And another book for me to buy or download......
http://www.urbantribes.net/about_the_book/index.html

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i dont like the idea of you sharing something like that with your son, its a little objectifiying, and i m not sure how that would work out,
Polyamorous relationships and societies? They do exist.. Research that and try to put that into application

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i have and i m sure you have too(ok no you havent but still), read many stories about how little girls were touched or something and it wasent explained to them that it was special and then they became sluts, because sex was a "feel good game" i dont think this is very romantic, "20 years later, i see her everyday, she is a pornstar "
lol. I remember listening to shit like that on Oprah, and some media supports that fallacy. Though at least being a "slut" is better than a prude bitch, and other repressive garbage =/
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Thanks for all the advice Star Wars Fan, much appreciated. Oh but before I forget, I saw the old version of Lolita. It pretty much sucked, there was only a few funny parts and the rest didn't really appeal to me.

But anyway, I decided not to follow your advice, since see-pea stories are apparently illegal.


Oh! But on an unrelated note, I decided to start recording dreams i've been having. The title of this one is misleading, but that's just because I haven't typed up the rest of the dream yet. It's kind of a strange one that's ongoing, and I keep "waking up" multiple times, only to find out i'm still dreaming! Well here's the first part, enjoy, and comments/criticisms are appreciated

Day 1
The Joy’s of Baby-sitting


I was in a deep fog, but strangely it felt warm. I couldn’t see anything, until suddenly the sun’s rays ripped through the thick fog. This revealed a blonde girl, of about seven. Her hair hung behind her head in a ponytail. She was standing on some grass, wearing nothing but a blue skirt that barely covered her panties. Her dime-sized nipples were erect, which was odd for the warmth of the place. She smiled, and turned around. Then she looked back and flipped up her skirt, while giggling. This revealed her pink cotton panties, which were tight, and outlined her soft preteen ass. Then she slipped off her blue skirt, leaving it crumpled on the ground, and turned around. I could see the outline of her smooth little pussy lips. She must of noticed me looking, because she took her left hand and pressed her index finger between her pussy lips. Then she started rubbing her little slit through her panties. She smiled, and motioned for me to come to her. I walked up to her, and while she continued rubbing between her pussy lips with one finger, she put her other arm around my back, guiding me toward her face. Our lips met, and I felt the warm sensation of sharing desires. As our lips parted, she guided my left hand toward her “lower lips”. She stopped rubbing with her index finger as I reached my hand into her pink panties. I began rubbing her clitoris in circular motions, then rubbed it up and down, frequently switching between motions.
“Yesssss, keep going,” the girl moaned softly with satisfaction, as I continued the rubbing motions with more speed.

While I was doing this, she started rubbing and lightly pinching both of her small nipples, with her eyes closed. She stopped her rubbing for a second, as she started pulling down her panties. That’s when a giant speaker came out of the ground, blaring an annoying beeping noise.

It took me a few seconds to realize I was just waking up from having a dream. It seemed so real, so vivid. I turned off the alarm clock.
“If you interrupt something like that again, I might just have to smash you,” I said to my alarm clock, then laughed, feeling foolish for talking to an inanimate object.
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Yup, but was the written version of my dream any good?

I just need to know what I need to improve on in my writing skills, so when I finish writing the dream, I could maybe make it as detailed as how I really saw it.
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But anyway, I decided not to follow your advice, since see-pea stories are apparently illegal.
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I just need to know what I need to improve on in my writing skills, so when I finish writing the dream, I could maybe make it as detailed as how I really saw it.
Just add more details IMO. I'm not a good literary critic, unless it deals with worldbuilding and logic in the story

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lol. Sounds like something out of the X-wing Novels
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I've read it twice. I was nine the first time, sixteen the second.

I found it overrated, both times. And it only turned me on the first time I read it, but I was one fucked up kid. Still, overrated.

I think parts of it escape my addled brain, though--I've been told Humbert is an unreliable narrator and I could never figure out what exactly he's being unreliable about.
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I mean, I followed your advice to write down my dream, you know? It's just that I didn't write my own fiction for legal reasons.....



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Just add more details IMO. I'm not a good literary critic, unless it deals with worldbuilding and logic in the story

Mmmmkay, i'll look it over when I get back from something today, and add anything I can think of to make it more like the detail of my dream, then edit my post.

I'm just glad you weren't like: "Cool story, bro!"
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I mean, I followed your advice to write down my dream, you know? It's just that I didn't write my own fiction for legal reasons.....
Yeah. Where do you live if by simply writing this you suffer a high risk of getting V&

I known there have been plenty of bullshit things LEA has done though.

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I'm just glad you weren't like: "Cool story, bro!"
Lol. Sure. Cool Story Bro
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Yeah. Where do you live if by simply writing this you suffer a high risk of getting V&

I known there have been plenty of bullshit things LEA has done though.
Ukraine........


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Damn it, I knew I shouldn't have said that
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Ukraine........
lol, I thought your location was WHERE YOU WANTED TO BE. I didn't know you actually lived in Ukraine

Is Russia playing nice, or do you still want to join the NATO

I swore the only thing that happened in Ukraine re. this is that they shut down the LS group and didn't prosecute anyone (they stated they didn't prosecute because LS voluntarily dissolved or some shit). You're afraid of the V& there lol?

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I didn't know you actually lived in Ukraine





Actually i'm in So-cal, and I just think they will bust any small time pedo, even just for stories. I just think they would do this to scare local communities into being more alert and stuff.


IDK maybe i'm just paranoid, but it doesn't matter because i'm documenting dreams, which is legal.
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Actually i'm in So-cal, and I just think they will bust any small time pedo, even just for stories. I just think they would do this to scare local communities into being more alert and stuff.
The worse cases of roving pigs and their "Sex Crimes" are happening in Florida, and they aren't making a dent....

EDIT: Actually I have thie year's FBI RCFL for 2008, found it in an empty college lectureroom a month or so ago. I loled @ the "Obscenity" shit in there.

For the San Diego RCFL 5% of the requests are "Sex offence", 3% is "Obscenity", and 8% is "Cyber Crime".

Though this year they deployed a new anti-kiddie porn task force in the area. Personally I'd say they're too swamped with IRL shit, or people spamming CP in forum raids and collecting it, etc to deal with that. But Yanno and I can't say anything which may put you in risk, so =/

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Hopefully they don't bullshit and lie. Eh.

EDIT: though the UK is going to shit
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I had something like that as a concept for a cyberpunk story im working on. Neighborhoods not segregated by race, but things like sexual orientation (leading to pedophile ghettoes), neurological wiring (autistic & ADHD hoods for mutual support), etc. That, and say the buildings designed to fit as such an internal tribe - maybe putting 2-3 apartments and demolishing the walls in-between them so it's a structure that could accomodate such tribes. That, and say varying tribes forming communes, from which people choose elected representatives, which form the city government (city soviet), from there so on and so on.........
Shiiit. That'd make for a good story.

I have an odd fascination with furries probably because I know a few though I am not one. Noticed that this "tribe" takes a bunch of oddball people and forms a group together. Turns out it's a group based on "cuteness" (dare I say oxytocin, [yeah I can throw out simplified chemical explanations when I want to sound cool]) The people associated a. have lots of sex and are polyamorous (the ones I've met) and b. are quite content with their lives. An odd phenomenon I'd have to say.

Haha a bunch of autistic kids in their own tribe would be a force to reckon with but also very funny. ADHD would be really funny to see too, probably take quite a while to make decisions in the tribal council/democray, whatever.

I'd like this, I'd join the tybe-a/b, sensitive, self-conscious, empathetic, half-baked, non-agressive, non-violent, contemplators group.
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Shiiit. That'd make for a good story.
W00t XD

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Have you told them to Yiff In Hell
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The people associated a. have lots of sex and are polyamorous (the ones I've met) and b. are quite content with their lives. An odd phenomenon I'd have to say.
No surprise there, they're furries. Though there would probably be separate polyamorous groups, etc. (like out of the movie 'Shortbus')

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The Icarus Project or Neurodiverse Tribe(s).

I was wondering how that would work, as in would it result in the "tribes" possibly fighting each other - as in what happens in The Warriors (New York City youth gangs) and The Outsiders (Greasers vs. Preppies) - or would there be a more peaceful means of doing things. So this might end up in mid future (conservatively 100 years from now in a world-wide ubiquitous case; though it'd end up starting much earlier in the larger cities already - it is not, the 'urban tribes' book references some of it). A businessman leaving his 'tribe' out to take the maglev train to the city center/downtown to work, or a 'tribe' that's collected of nerds who help another 'tribe' with their technical stuff. Hmm.

Also these ideas also fit in with Libertarian Socialism's ideas. The whole 'oppose the state with various small autonomous units that work in mutual defense' - ish stuff

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I'd join the sci-fi group, or the weeaboos/channers. Or the autistics
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Haha.

Reminds me of the playground in 6th grade.

Girly-girls and fembois at the monkey bars. Jocks playin' sports on the field. Oddballs on the dome. Non-jocks mixing at the wallball and 4square. Nerds in the library. Artistic types way on the far side of the field. Aspies were loners or sometimes mixed in the library and mentally handicapped did group together.

Diplomacy wasn't too bad. There was definitely a hierarchy among the groups. But jocks called non-jocks "losers" in a similar sense to The Outsiders. Not a terribly bad setup but this allowed for bullying.

I don't think it's possible to have tribes without some sort of hierarchy. The playground = great human nature example. Although nerds do have some value to trade with the jocks the dominant group always uses its dominance in place of a real tangible value (good or service).
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Haha.

Reminds me of the playground in 6th grade.
lol. I didn't know this happened....actually yes I do. I remember Malcolm In the Middle had something along the lines of these in their show. I never experienced that, then again I didn't go to a predominantly white suburban elementary school full of emos

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Girly-girls and fembois at the monkey bars. Jocks playin' sports on the field. Oddballs on the dome. Non-jocks mixing at the wallball and 4square. Nerds in the library. Artistic types way on the far side of the field. Aspies were loners or sometimes mixed in the library and mentally handicapped did group together.
Why are the Aspies not fraternizing with the "Oddballs"? I'd expect there to be group solidarity. But then again the culture may be more accepting so internal divisiona may be more strengthened; e.g. in a small Deep South town all the 'different' people may be grouped in and mainly stay together, angry or shunned by the mundanes, hiding or being openly mocked and not caring. In a more 'liberal' area - they may be in the open about it and get into internal feuds - e.g. division in Chicago Area Paganist groups.

Basically I'm going to have to account for all these differences in order to predict social/cultural trends in other parts of the world - factoring in culture. Though humans are universal and different things come out differently in cultures, but still similar. E.G. many of the oddballs and aspies in the USA would easily fit in with the Hikkimori and Otaku in Japan likely. And the story The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, an American 50s sci-fi story is the same story as the Gundam metaverse - a large series of japanese anime. The premise of space colonists rebelling against the Earth powers. It's intrepreted differently.

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Surprised the "losers" didn't form balancing coalitions to repel the Jocks' aggression. I know I probably would've thought of that idea.

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Although nerds do have some value to trade with the jocks the dominant group always uses its dominance in place of a real tangible value (good or service).
A decentralized world makes such hierachy harder to form and provides a block to keep any sort of majority group from asserting itself.

Also don't forget the preeming hipster fags, or emos, or whatnot
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