Research chems similar to Ket/opiates

GreatestGatsby4 · #1 01-26-2010, 05:16 PM

the title says it all im looking for new Rc's and most of the ones i can find are psychedelic or speedy, anyone know of some KET/opiate like RC's that arent too vague i could find them?
Thanks Bunches!

**Gun Lover** · #2 01-26-2010, 05:31 PM

I've yet to come across a dissociative RC, but O-Desmethyltramadol is easy to find online. It's an opioid RC that's a bit stronger than Tramadol, IIRC.

Oral B · #3 01-26-2010, 05:38 PM

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Space Monkey · #4 01-27-2010, 07:44 AM

4-meo-pcp is amazing, did a lot last summer before my source dried up, it's very similar to ket, the "hole" is more visual and more lucid, you're more in control of where you're going with your trip.

The price is high though, I mean compared to what we pay in Europe for ketamine, the taste is absolutely disgusting, by far the worst tasting chemical I ever did, but the trip is amazing.

It lasts for ages though, the first time I did it I was in a "hole" state for the whole weekend, from saturday afternoon till monday morning, I did keep on redosing though, I had a pile of it on a cd case and I just kept on licking my finger and having more dabs.

It's a very worthy chemical, I'd say it's probably my favourite RC after DPT, what I really like about it is that you can have an amazingly visual and intense experience but it doesn't weird you out like ketamine does, in a way you can keep a more sober, lucid mental state even though you're entering a different dimension, don't know if that makes sense.

It messes up your coordination and motor skills even more than ketamine does though and they last way more, I was unable to drive for more than 24 hours after coming down from the trip, that was more than a day and a half after my last top up dose.

It also makes you more active than ketamine, which on dissociatives isn't really a good thing, before managing to just lie down and trip out in full darkness and silence I was stumbling around the house and when I finally sobered up I noticed I had been quite destructive, I broke a few things here and there and I also injured myself slightly.

Mentally is less alien and more sober and lucid while the body high is more intense and longer lasting and can be slightly annoying, overall if you get a chance to try it.

Hope this helps.

One quick question... · #5 01-27-2010, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Space Monkey

4-meo-pcp is amazing, did a lot last summer before my source dried up, it's very similar to ket, the "hole" is more visual and more lucid, you're more in control of where you're going with your trip.

The price is high though, I mean compared to what we pay in Europe for ketamine, the taste is absolutely disgusting, by far the worst tasting chemical I ever did, but the trip is amazing.

It lasts for ages though, the first time I did it I was in a "hole" state for the whole weekend, from saturday afternoon till monday morning, I did keep on redosing though, I had a pile of it on a cd case and I just kept on licking my finger and having more dabs.

It's a very worthy chemical, I'd say it's probably my favourite RC after DPT, what I really like about it is that you can have an amazingly visual and intense experience but it doesn't weird you out like ketamine does, in a way you can keep a more sober, lucid mental state even though you're entering a different dimension, don't know if that makes sense.

It messes up your coordination and motor skills even more than ketamine does though and they last way more, I was unable to drive for more than 24 hours after coming down from the trip, that was more than a day and a half after my last top up dose.

It also makes you more active than ketamine, which on dissociatives isn't really a good thing, before managing to just lie down and trip out in full darkness and silence I was stumbling around the house and when I finally sobered up I noticed I had been quite destructive, I broke a few things here and there and I also injured myself slightly.

Mentally is less alien and more sober and lucid while the body high is more intense and longer lasting and can be slightly annoying, overall if you get a chance to try it.

Hope this helps.

Great post.

I hate to think what that stuff does to your brain though.

Aces N 8s · #6 01-27-2010, 08:48 AM

Heres what I did when I was looking for the name of some uncommon opiates. Check out the wikipedia article listing all of the drugs listed in the UK's controlled drug list, Classes A - C. They have hundreds of very uncommon opiates, many of which you could call "Research Chemicals" that have opiate like effects.

The article lists all of the drugs one at a time with their categories (opiate, amphetamine, etc.). If you just want a big list of uncommon opiates that'll ge you more names than you could track down in a life time.

**mksnowboarder** · #7 01-27-2010, 02:24 PM

Fuck, there's two classes of "RCs" that are opiod like. I was reading it somewhere, but I can't recall the names for the life of me.

*Runs off to forage through the internet*

mike

GreatestGatsby4 · #8 01-27-2010, 02:29 PM

*waits patiently*

Herpy Derpy · #9 01-27-2010, 02:30 PM

Damn I should have bought some 5-meo-PCP before the source ran out.

I didn't think it was that good.

GreatestGatsby4 · #10 01-27-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by peu4000

Damn I should have bought some 5-meo-PCP before the source ran out.

I didn't think it was that good.

if i find any or get some k ill hit you up.

Herpy Derpy · #11 01-27-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GratefulGarcia4

if i find any or get some k ill hit you up.

Right-o.

**mksnowboarder** · #12 01-27-2010, 02:49 PM

The general consensus is that there really isn't. Nothing you're gonna source easily online, anyway.

However, as for legal fun, check out enkephalinase inhibitors, benzimidazoles, and etonitazene derivatives.

Also, familiar with phenazepam? That's an okay downer you can find easily.

mike

reject · #13 01-27-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces N 8s

Check out the wikipedia article listing all of the drugs listed in the UK's controlled drug list, Classes A - C. They have hundreds of very uncommon opiates, many of which you could call "Research Chemicals" that have opiate like effects.

Good ol' Blighty.

**mksnowboarder** · #14 01-27-2010, 02:56 PM

http://bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=459890

mike

reject · #15 01-27-2010, 02:56 PM

You used to be able to buy Phenazepam on ebay a few months back.

**mksnowboarder** · #16 01-27-2010, 02:56 PM

Keep up our alternating posts, reject. It's nifty.

mike

reject · #17 01-27-2010, 03:24 PM

The OP should make poppy pod tea, who needs RC's when you can have the real thing.

GreatestGatsby4 · #18 01-27-2010, 04:00 PM

iirc, phenazepam is a barbituate, amirite? will it show up on a standard probation drug test? and about poppy pod tea, I looked once at prices online for pods but they seemed pretty expensive, however I would ne interested if anyone knows a cheap source.

**mksnowboarder** · #19 01-27-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GratefulGarcia4

iirc, phenazepam is a barbituate, amirite? will it show up on a standard probation drug test? and about poppy pod tea, I looked once at prices online for pods but they seemed pretty expensive, however I would ne interested if anyone knows a cheap source.

It's a benzo. No clue if it'll show up. Luckily, my probation does not involve drug testing.

mike

Loophole · #20 01-27-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GratefulGarcia4

iirc, phenazepam is a barbituate, amirite? will it show up on a standard probation drug test? and about poppy pod tea, I looked once at prices online for pods but they seemed pretty expensive, however I would ne interested if anyone knows a cheap source.

PM me about something completely unrelated if you find a cheap source.

Aces N 8s · #21 01-27-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GratefulGarcia4

iirc, phenazepam is a barbituate, amirite? will it show up on a standard probation drug test? and about poppy pod tea, I looked once at prices online for pods but they seemed pretty expensive, however I would ne interested if anyone knows a cheap source.

As mike said, phenazepam is a benzo. The "standard" drug test will check for metabolites of Marijuana products, amphetamines, cocaine (also crack, & freebase), pcp, and opiates that have metabolites in common with morphine (codeine, heroin, etc.)

Do not ask for sources on this forum. Technically buying poppy pods is illegal esp. since your buying them for consumption. That means its not permitted to ask for sources.

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Originally Posted by Diet Orange Flavored Soda

PM me about something completely unrelated if you find a cheap source.

Guys, dont make this shit that obvious. You could have just as easily sent this to him as a PM. How hard would that be, seriously?

purewhitepanda · #22 01-27-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces N 8s

As mike said, phenazepam is a benzo. The "standard" drug test will check for metabolites of Marijuana products, amphetamines, cocaine (also crack, & freebase), pcp, and opiates that have metabolites in common with morphine (codeine, heroin, etc.)

Do not ask for sources on this forum. Technically buying poppy pods is illegal esp. since your buying them for consumption. That means its not permitted to ask for sources.

Guys, dont make this shit that obvious. You could have just as easily sent this to him as a PM. How hard would that be, seriously?

Show me where it says your not allowed to purchase poppy pods/plants. As far as i know it's only illegal to manufacture not to consume. Your allowed to eat poppy seeds,so your info sounds far off to me.....

Piles of Crack · #23 01-27-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Bonanno

Phenazepam is opiate like...

Wow, someone obviously has never taken phenazepam before. It's one of the least sedating benzos I've ever sampled, when you take into account it's equipotence with the rest of them, and there definitely isn't any euphoria involved; well, it can make you euphoric by relaxing you to hell after a stressful day at work or something, but it's nothing like an opiate. No benzo is.

GreatestGatsby4 · #24 01-27-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces N 8s

Do not ask for sources on this forum. Technically buying poppy pods is illegal esp. since your buying them for consumption. That means its not permitted to ask for sources.

i was trying not to explicitly "ask" but just say i was "interested" if someone had a source. like we could have a little chat about it without exchanging any information

AdMech · #25 01-27-2010, 06:41 PM

Herkinorin?

Piles of Crack · #26 01-28-2010, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Bonanno

There are a bunch of posts online about Phenazepam being compared to opiates, and making people act like unmotivated zombies.

Link me, please. I've read a lot about Phenazepam, and I've eaten even more. It's not a matter of debate; they're two completely different drugs.

Also, keep in mind that a lot of people are stupid and decide it's a good idea to eyeball powder doses of essentially pure pharmaceutical tranquilizers that are active at the sub-milligram level.

**mksnowboarder** · #27 01-28-2010, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by -PoC

active at the sub-milligram level.

*rolls eyes*

mike

hotbod · #28 01-28-2010, 05:13 AM

iim wondering where i can find some straight up ketamine, powder or liquid.

JeezIHopeSpctralDoesntDeletemMyPost

One quick question... · #29 01-28-2010, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hotbod

iim wondering where i can find some straight up ketamine, powder or liquid.

JeezIHopeSpctralDoesntDeletemMyPost

Overseas pharms

and -spectral can't deelte posts in NfHC

Hydroponichronic · #30 01-28-2010, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gun Lover

I've yet to come across a dissociative RC, but O-Desmethyltramadol is easy to find online. It's an opioid RC that's a bit stronger than Tramadol, IIRC.

This, but for a dissociative RC look for O-desmethyl DXM (aka dextrorphanol) or just eat DXM and it becomes DXO in yr body.

Rizzo in a box · #31 01-28-2010, 08:59 AM

mk-801

hey hydro, back in the days of the BLTC research project a user came up with a bit of research on DXO & had some ideas for an article. you want has look?

Space Monkey · #32 01-28-2010, 10:14 AM

It seems from the replies that there's way more opiophiles than dissociative enthusiasts on here, we should do a survey to draw some use statistics, it should be interesting to break the data down in terms of age, sex, income group and geographical location.

Hydroponichronic · #33 01-28-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box

mk-801

hey hydro, back in the days of the BLTC research project a user came up with a bit of research on DXO & had some ideas for an article. you want has look?

sure.