Archived: Tools of the Trade

[DrGoogfan]

Lol a hammer

[SteamPunk]

Nice thread!

[Trauntj]

thanks, the pictures and diagrams really helped.

[Food Product]

Another thing for the spider wraps, check to see how loose the cables are. I've gotten paintball guns this way. Lazy employees leaving just a bit of slack and crushign the corners of the box means you could get it off easily.

[busted]

Sometimes the spiderwraps are way too tight. That it's even too hard to open with the original s3 key. Damn those store workers!

[Mutt225]

Originally Posted by Ravan

I know. That's why I'm asking how to quietly remove them. There is a detacher for it, but I don't wanna carry that thing around.

Hi, You can just use your hands for gator tags, they are the easiest tag to remove and dont need a tool for them. I have a sensormatic hook and when I go someplace and see gator tags Makes me happiper cause i know i can just pop em off with my hand, simple as that

[busted]

In case anyone wants The real/original alpha s3 hand key:

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=98705

no bs. Check out the pics. I have a ton of them. Only use 1. And 1 for back up in case u need to ditch mine out in the field.

[redhanded]

Originally Posted by busted

In case anyone wants The real/original alpha s3 hand key:

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=98705

no bs. Check out the pics. I have a ton of them. Only use 1. And 1 for back up in case u need to ditch mine out in the field.

You can buy them for $25 online from a legitimate non-security related retailer. What's your price?

[Malice]

I've tried buying them online using a fake business name and the address of a business that I've had tied to my debit card, it didn't work. I haven't heard of any site that doesn't require this.

[The_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Monso

Another thing for the spider wraps, check to see how loose the cables are. I've gotten paintball guns this way. Lazy employees leaving just a bit of slack and crushign the corners of the box means you could get it off easily.

How to fuck do you walk out of a store with a paintball gun?

[Chris Hansen]

Originally Posted by The_Ninja

How to fuck do you walk out of a store with a paintball gun?

you do exactly that. just walk out. if it doesnt go off they wont do anything. i have actualy gotten some airsoft guns.

[ScumBag]

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[tbeezu]

The magnet link is invalid. Can I get an updated link goog?

[Malice]

According to ScumBag this magnet will remove them:http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetai...X0-N52&cat=168

[zzzzz]

I'm having issues with the Alpha 2 alarm tags that are just like these:

http://www.AmericanTheftPrevention.c...-Tag-p115.html

but are attached to clothing. Anyone with any help on where the sweet spot is on those?

[Food Product]

Originally Posted by PontifLeviticus

you do exactly that. just walk out. if it doesnt go off they wont do anything. i have actualy gotten some airsoft guns.

This.

The first time I was by myself, no issues. Uncrew the barrel, put into my(Deep) pocket, which a light sweater covered well. the actual gun is smaller than you'd think, and real thin which went into my wasit-band. No issues, walked out.

Second gun, I was careless and went in with a friend who also wanted a marker. I wont go into details, but the lift involved running as fast as possible behind a Home Depot.

[Method of Madness]

When I used to jack shit with spider wires on it, i would take it to the bathroom. Go into a stall and submerge the spiders body underwater then clip the wires. It shorts out/makes no sound underwater. Then flush the bastard

[Raziel]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Guerilla

When I used to jack shit with spider wires on it, i would take it to the bathroom. Go into a stall and submerge the spiders body underwater then clip the wires. It shorts out/makes no sound underwater. Then flush the bastard

Nice one, if there are no stalls try taking water in bottle and do it that way.

[tbeezu]

From the updated link, which one would be strong enough? I remember the other magnet was around $40 but the other 3 is only 10 and less so I'm assuming it isn't as strong.

[The_Ninja]

You can get an S3 key from Demco legally for $35. Here's the link:

http://www.demco.com/goto?BLK8957

[Malice]

I may have tried it, it didn't work.

[zzzzz]

Originally Posted by DrGoogfan

take a picture of the back for me.

Customer is having trouble uploading her pictures--it's telling me I can't do an attachment. BUT, found a better pic of the front.

http://www.alphaworld.com/alpha-secu...m-hard-tag.asp

The back is flat. It attaches to clothing with a pin, just like the ones on SuperTags and gators. The sides are smooth, with no notches for the S3 key. Customer is baffled by this.

BONUS: However, while you are on the Alpha site, be sure to click on the "Video Instructions" tab. Here, you will find tutorials in exactly where to put your S3 for all of the tags they make!!!! (For some screwy reason, it doesn't have one for this 2 Alarm tag.)

[Malice]

It's possible that i requires a magnetic detacher, like this:

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You could try emailing someone and asking them whether it's compatible with the Alpha S3 handkey:
http://www.alphaworld.com/alpha-secu...ntact-us.asp#1

[ScumBag]

GONE

[PEEPLUSEM]

has anyone bought the radial magentized magnets from that site and tried them?

[TYL3R13]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Guerilla

When I used to jack shit with spider wires on it, i would take it to the bathroom. Go into a stall and submerge the spiders body underwater then clip the wires. It shorts out/makes no sound underwater. Then flush the bastard

I tried something almost EXACTLY like this.. i had a pioneer 1100 watt amp, it had a spider wrap, i took it to the lawn and garden (it was winter, so NOBODY was out there, yet the doors are still unlocked) There was little water cooler thing for employees to get drinks from, so i filled a cup up with water, and dunked the spider wrap in it and left it in there for about 20 seconds. i took it out, and the light was still blinking, so back into the water it went!!! after 30 seconds i pulled it out, and the light was STILL blinking so i figured the little fuckers were water-proof. There was also a tool bin right next to the water cooler, and i found a pair of wire cutters. since there was nobody around, i decided to just cut the damn wire and leave the wrap and get the hell out before somene found it. So i tried to cut the damn wire, but i couldnt!! Maybe the wire cutters were just dull as fuck, but for the life of me i couldnt cut through the litte fucker. So i went to plan C, took out my cutter tool, and started hackin away at the box, then after enough of the box was gone, the wrap easily came off, i buried the pieces of the box and the wrap in a box full of valentine pillows that was out there, bagged the amp, and left. the old greeter lady just smiled as i walked out, not knowing I had an amp in one bag and a 10" sub in another

And for every time i said "I" i meant SWIM XD

[313]

Originally Posted by TYL3R13

I tried something almost EXACTLY like this.. i had a pioneer 1100 watt amp, it had a spider wrap, i took it to the lawn and garden (it was winter, so NOBODY was out there, yet the doors are still unlocked) There was little water cooler thing for employees to get drinks from, so i filled a cup up with water, and dunked the spider wrap in it and left it in there for about 20 seconds. i took it out, and the light was still blinking, so back into the water it went!!! after 30 seconds i pulled it out, and the light was STILL blinking so i figured the little fuckers were water-proof. There was also a tool bin right next to the water cooler, and i found a pair of wire cutters. since there was nobody around, i decided to just cut the damn wire and leave the wrap and get the hell out before somene found it. So i tried to cut the damn wire, but i couldnt!! Maybe the wire cutters were just dull as fuck, but for the life of me i couldnt cut through the litte fucker. So i went to plan C, took out my cutter tool, and started hackin away at the box, then after enough of the box was gone, the wrap easily came off, i buried the pieces of the box and the wrap in a box full of valentine pillows that was out there, bagged the amp, and left. the old greeter lady just smiled as i walked out, not knowing I had an amp in one bag and a 10" sub in another

And for every time i said "I" i meant SWIM XD

howd you get the amp and shit man? like what steps did you take to do that?
sounds awesome!

[LilLita]

Originally Posted by The_Ninja

You can get an S3 key from Demco legally for $35. Here's the link:

http://www.demco.com/goto?BLK8957

their site says they only sell to libraries - would they sell to a person?

that's way better price than i was quoted but i'd rather pay more for no trouble...

[StainlessSteal]

USS Spider Wrap - anyone know if this can be opened with a standard s3 key?

[IamMinsk]

Originally Posted by LilLita

their site says they only sell to libraries - would they sell to a person?

that's way better price than i was quoted but i'd rather pay more for no trouble...

If you make a homemade one...it can fit into your sock and no1 will have any idea wtf it is(electrical tape or plastidip as a coating) if something goes wrong as opposed to having the alpha logo sticking out...

[Ben Katz]

I can remember seeing something about a "countersunk detacher" and I cannot find it anymore. I am looking for the kind of tag that they use at The Gap which merely requires a magnet to offset the pin mechanism.

I just bought a bunch of high powered magnets from my local science store...these magnets have to be powerful, because I just got a huge blister from a couple of the magnets pinching the hell out of my fingers. It hurt like a mother!!

Does anyone know of a link about how to make your own detacher (much like a countersunk)...Any tutorials would be great...

[dagonxx]

Thanks DrGoogfan, the magnet does work on spider wraps. I have been practicing at home on a spider wrap I found in the Staples dumpster. I still haven't figured out the big plastic containers they hold PC software and ipods in. I hope to unlock one in the next couple days.

[Imposter]

Originally Posted by dagonxx

Thanks DrGoogfan, the magnet does work on spider wraps. I have been practicing at home on a spider wrap I found in the Staples dumpster. I still haven't figured out the big plastic containers they hold PC software and ipods in. I hope to unlock one in the next couple days.

I just got my hands on a couple N52 magnets recently. When I went to check Wallyworld, it looks as if they have a newer model of the cases posted above (the ones for video games). It has the same slider in the right bottom, but a different looking coil. I couldn't read the model number off of the bottom of the case, sadly. Does anyone know anything about the newer models cases? Will the home-made magnet key still work?

[¤Tømmÿ Ver¢ettî¤]

Originally Posted by Imposter

I just got my hands on a couple N52 magnets recently. When I went to check Wallyworld, it looks as if they have a newer model of the cases posted above (the ones for video games). It has the same slider in the right bottom, but a different looking coil. I couldn't read the model number off of the bottom of the case, sadly. Does anyone know anything about the newer models cases? Will the home-made magnet key still work?

I know exactly what you're talking about, the walmart closest to me took out the glass display cases and started locking ever game up individually with those alpha boxes.
I don't have an s3 key. or a homemade one so idk if it will work.

[Imposter]

Originally Posted by tommy_vercetti

I know exactly what you're talking about, the walmart closest to me took out the glass display cases and started locking ever game up individually with those alpha boxes.
I don't have an s3 key. or a homemade one so idk if it will work.

The homemade one in this topic works.
When they say these things are powerful but brittle, they mean it.
I was putting them into the configuration shown above and one slipped from my hand and collided into the other breaking chunks off of them both.

[dagonxx]

Originally Posted by Imposter

I just got my hands on a couple N52 magnets recently. When I went to check Wallyworld, it looks as if they have a newer model of the cases posted above (the ones for video games). It has the same slider in the right bottom, but a different looking coil. I couldn't read the model number off of the bottom of the case, sadly. Does anyone know anything about the newer models cases? Will the home-made magnet key still work?

The new cases at my Walmart are easy. they are see thru so you can see where you have to put the magnet. I had God of War three open in 3 seconds but I think I had people following me on around the store so I just left it there.

[Ben Katz]

Any help with my previous question? thanks!

[ScumBag]

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[Ben Katz]

I realize it isn't rocket science. However I thought I remembered that the polarity had to be alternating and something else about having four of them.

[ScumBag]

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