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Green Planet Environmental issues. The ozone hole. Tree hugging for fun and profit. Toxins in the air, water, and soil. Biotechnological foodstuffs.

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Old 2007-07-17, 15:52
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Now, dont get me wrong I know the earth is warming but I dont feel that it will be a serious threat to humans. Sure some of the regions of the world that are borderline inhabitable already (due to heat) will be come uninhabitable but once the ice at the poles melt we will most likely have new land masses.

I feel that we will run out of fossil fuels (namely oil, but coal and such shouldnt take too long after oil is eliminated) before gloabal warming poses a serious threat to the human race. The earth will begin to change. Many species will become extint. Human population will decrease, which is less taxing on the enviroment.

I have been looking for a chart or something of the estimated amount of oil left, but couldnt find one.

A world without oil will be better, even if it is a couple degrees warmer.
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Old 2007-07-17, 16:05
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Now, dont get me wrong I know the earth is warming but I dont feel that it will be a serious threat to humans. Sure some of the regions of the world that are borderline inhabitable already (due to heat) will be come uninhabitable but once the ice at the poles melt we will most likely have new land masses.

I feel that we will run out of fossil fuels (namely oil, but coal and such shouldnt take too long after oil is eliminated) before gloabal warming poses a serious threat to the human race. The earth will begin to change. Many species will become extint. Human population will decrease, which is less taxing on the enviroment.

I have been looking for a chart or something of the estimated amount of oil left, but couldnt find one.

A world without oil will be better, even if it is a couple degrees warmer.

'Running out of oil' is the wrong term as we will never RUN out of oil, 'Peak oil' Is a much better term as this is when production starts to decline.

Regarding the oil reserves. These are sketchy at best as countries don't have to and do not release reserve data. The reserves that countries do release are often well overstated especially in OPEC where there is a reserve based quota system in place encouraging overexaduration of reserves.

Regarding climate change. It's no just the marginal regions that will be affected. Many existing temporate zones will experience much more wilder weather with stronger storms, hotter/colder seasons, more/less rain etc. One of the biggest problems would be if the monsoon rains failed in asia like they did in the Sahel due to human generated pollution. Without them 2 billion people would be without water.
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Old 2007-07-17, 17:22
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Problem is, demand for oil is increasing, while supplies are decreasing. When we can't meet demand, there will be an ever increasing fuel gap where the oil we need will be more and more than the amount we can supply.

The question we have to ask is - will the total amount of emissions we emit before we say "fuck it, oil just isn't economical anymore" be enough to damage the climate significantly?

Now before anyone says, "well obviously, it's already done harm," we have to determine how much of the change so far is caused by man's burning of fossil fuels.

We also have the issue that we might not be able to stop the process. Too many people are committed to burn oil till it doesn't pay.

Really, we have to evaluate what effect the fuels burnt will have on the environment up until people stop using them.

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Old 2007-07-17, 23:48
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I don't see how you find it helpful. I mean I read what everyone said and I still think it should be "global warming will work itself out"

Either way, will methane be the next big problem What about all the people that will be like "oh shit no power, no heater to use...best chop those trees down to burn like there's no tomorrow"

And yeah I found it funny that from the original post it went from global warming to me saying people will be contributing to global warming to keep themselves warm
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Old 2007-07-20, 01:11
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I hardly consider an ice age for northern Europe and the US caused by a fresh water disrupting the warm Atlantic waters flowing north from the equators, which creates a temperature moderating effect for said land masses, which will affect farming and quality of life in the northern US states, Canada, Great Britian and all of northern Europe resulting in mass starvation from famine and an eventual mass exodus out of said affected parts reducing food supplies and quality of life in other places to the south.. as being helpful.
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Old 2007-07-20, 11:20
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How could a sea level rise and increased extinction be helpful?
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Old 2007-07-20, 14:10
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I hardly consider an ice age for northern Europe and the US caused by a fresh water disrupting the warm Atlantic waters flowing north from the equators, which creates a temperature moderating effect for said land masses, which will affect farming and quality of life in the northern US states, Canada, Great Britian and all of northern Europe resulting in mass starvation from famine and an eventual mass exodus out of said affected parts reducing food supplies and quality of life in other places to the south.. as being helpful.
That is a theory as to what might happen when the poles melt, not fact.

REAL: its helpful because the earth has far too many species/organisms (mainly human) using up far too many resources. When these organisms are gone, or atleast decreased, the earth will finally gain an edge.
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Old 2007-07-20, 19:36
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^^ Go smoke some more weed, kid.
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Old 2007-07-20, 20:11
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REAL: its helpful because the earth has far too many species/organisms (mainly human) using up far too many resources. When these organisms are gone, or atleast decreased, the earth will finally gain an edge.
Then suicide is helpful too. Please go help the earth.
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