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NitrousBuddy
2008-01-17, 18:36
im not tryin to start a flame war here people. please dont start bashing this drug, i already know i can get better. but i think propyl. has great potential. 500mg and there is a great bit of euphoria there. and remember this is OTC. mods please dont move this to lab tips i already posted a version there but all i get are just assholish replies. i wanna do a large extraction, but i dont know which procedure to use, after ive read like 40 diff. ways to do it. so basically im just wondering if this procedure would be the best to use. any help or info on this would really be appreciated.

Required chemicals:

* Muriatic (hydrochloric) acid or another weaker acid substitute
* Isopropyl alcohol
* Petroleum Ether or "Zippo" lighter fluid
* Distilled water

(1) Break open a Benzedrex inhaler, cut the cotton into small pieces, and place into a 25-50ml beaker.

(2) Add a couple tablespoons of isopropyl alcohol (70% to 99%). This will immediately pre-extract some of the propylhexedrine freebase from the cotton.

(3) Boil some water (preferably distilled) in the microwave. While waiting, stir the cotton inhaler/alcohol mix thoroughly.

(4) Add boiling water to the alcohol/cotton mix, filling the beaker slightly less than halfway with fluid. Immediately add 15-30 drops of muriatic acid.

(5) Stir well, and let sit for 10-15 minutes. Remove cotton, squeeze out and set it aside (don't discard it yet).
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(6) Add Zippo / petroleum ether to the beaker, until it's 4/5 full or thereabouts (enough to be able to shake). Cover and SHAKE WELL (use your hand to cover the top f there's no lid).

(7) Allow the petroleum layer to separate from the other liquid -- it will float to the top, with the menthol crap dissolved in it but the propylhexedrine still in solution in the acidic water/alcohol layer at bottom. Siphon off the top layer with an eyedropper and discard it. If you plan on injecting the propylhexedrine, repeat steps 6-7 several times to improve purity.

(8) Place the remaining liquid on an evaporation plate, put it in the microwave or conventional oven and evaporate completely. Careful not to let the plate crack from the heat. Allow to sit 15-30 minutes to cool.

(9) Either scrape propylhexedrine crystals off plate and save, or scrape crystals and dissolve in ~30ml water. Alternately you could add ~30ml water onto the plate, swirl it around to redissolve the propylhexedrine and siphon it off into another container.

(10) If desired, take the cotton from step 5 and repeat this whole process on it one more time. You should recover only 5-10% more at best, which is insignificant with one inhaler but would be significant if several inhalers were being extracted at once.

stupid noob
2008-01-17, 18:49
Do not double post threads between forums. Your LT thread is now locked.

Death Snuggle
2008-01-17, 19:05
Do not double post threads between forums. Your LT thread is now locked.

I bet this'll get moved there when the mods show anyway.

im not tryin to start a flame war here people. please dont start bashing this drug, i already know i can get better. but i think propyl. has great potential. 500mg and there is a great bit of euphoria there. and remember this is OTC. mods please dont move this to lab tips i already posted a version there but all i get are just assholish replies.

That should tell you something, shouldn't it?

stupid noob
2008-01-17, 19:18
He probably thinks everyone is keeping the info from him because it's just soooo fucking great.


To be honest, I've never fucked with it, I've always heard it's shit, and it's obviously not worth the effort, so I never looked into it at all and I'm sure as fuck not anyones research monkey. Oh shit, I just did a google search on this, and, fucking, just go read the wiki nooblet. GTFO. KTHXBAI.

d4rk3
2008-01-17, 19:21
Prop. is the shit! For OTC, it's pretty euphoric.

I'm going to give this a go when i have the cash to buy the supplies

jamaica0535
2008-01-17, 19:22
If it had a longer duration and a comedown that didn't suck balls it wouldn't be a half bad drug. I enjoyed it until I came down.

d4rk3
2008-01-17, 19:28
If it had a longer duration and a comedown that didn't suck balls it wouldn't be a half bad drug. I enjoyed it until I came down.

Was this with pure Prop or with cotton? This extraction would kill so many of the negative effects that eating the cotton bring.

jamaica0535
2008-01-17, 19:46
Was this with pure Prop or with cotton? This extraction would kill so many of the negative effects that eating the cotton bring.cotton. sure the menthol and camphor belches were vile but if removing these would prevent me feeling like shit for the next few days this drug has a bit more appeal.

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-17, 19:51
I bet this'll get moved there when the mods show anyway.



That should tell you something, shouldn't it?

that all of you are assholes? yeah

Death Snuggle
2008-01-17, 19:57
that all of you are assholes? yeah

Or... just stick with me for a second..... maybe we don't have the answer. I know how shocking that may be, but we may not know every little detail of everything. :eek: Crazy thought, I know. :rolleyes:

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-17, 20:03
If it had a longer duration and a comedown that didn't suck balls it wouldn't be a half bad drug. I enjoyed it until I came down.

i never experienced a bad comedown luckily. but yea i hear that the comedown is pretty shitty, but the way i see it, when i do 300mg of dex. amp the comedown feels like i am seriously on the verge of never returning. i always think that when i start getting dehydrated and when putting food in my mouth only succeeds to creating a solid that wont break down. this goes on for days, and on the last is when i always ask why i do that shit (then i remember its cuz ill jerk off for 9 hours straight, and it'll be the best time of my life...every time) but on another note, this drug is OTC. that alone should already be enough to get looked into. i mean shit go look around for experiences you get at least 3:1 on good to bad. a lot of people enjoy this drug, ESPECIALLY CUZ ITS OTC. yes i do coke, lots of acetone washed coke. i know good drugs, i do lots of them, but thats not the point. the point is that this something that is soo easily obtainable and has much rec. potential. yes. there are gonna be bad side effects, but toughen the fuck up, you've done "better" and "harder" drugs so shut the fuck up, stop fucking flaming this shit like you are the almighty. its science dammit. im sorry to go on a rant, its just everywhere i go theres dudes liking the shit and the fucking faggots who think its gotta be illegal to be good. and all the people here like joe and stupid noob, yes i know you guys know a lot of shit, and i really really respect that. but just cuz its an a-list drug doesn't mean it cant be useful.


fuck paragraphs suck my nuts

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-17, 20:05
Or... just stick with me for a second..... maybe we don't have the answer. I know how shocking that may be, but we may not know every little detail of everything. :eek: Crazy thought, I know. :rolleyes:

what do you mean you dont have the answers? i dont know if you do but i know joe or snoob does. im not like fuckin forcing an answer out of them. im asking if i do that will it work or not. they have the answer.

Death Snuggle
2008-01-17, 20:06
Chill, if you've gone over your stuff and it all looks right to the best of your knowledge and you've checked up on the shadier stuff, then just fucking do it. Simple. Trial and error the only real way to find out anything.

what do you mean you dont have the answers? i dont know if you do but i know joe or snoob does. im not like fuckin forcing an answer out of them. im asking if i do that will it work or not. they have the answer.

I honestly doubt it. They can have a good idea or throw a random fucking guess out there, but you won't know until you try.

stupid noob
2008-01-17, 20:11
Or... just stick with me for a second..... maybe we don't have the answer. I know how shocking that may be, but we may not know every little detail of everything. :eek: Crazy thought, I know. :rolleyes:

Are you fucking kidding me? Did you even bother to look into how simple and shitty this is. As a matter of fact, I forthwith call troll, because that extraction is fucked and I think he is doing it for attention.


Seriously, did you not bother to look into it, or do you think pulling cotton out and running water through it is like, hard or difficult in some way? Did your water get shut off? Do you live in a third world country where the water is not clean? Because tequila would extract it just as well.

But seriously, the reason no one is helping him is NOT because no one knows, it's because everyone is laughing at him.


And having seen the post above this one, I'd like to say death snuggle shut the fuck up, you don't know shit, go crawl back in your hole noob. It's a simple motherfucking water extraction and one dimwit is like, durr ken i use da nonpolar solvent 2 extract teh polar compound? and then the other dimwit is like ya dud if u leik raed stuffz bout it den it shud be gewd.


Seriously WTF. How many dipshits does it take to run water through cotton?

Death snuggle you ignorant fucking nigger

Death Snuggle
2008-01-17, 20:12
Are you fucking kidding me? Did you even bother to look into how simple and shitty this is. As a matter of fact, I forthwith call troll, because that extraction is fucked and I think he is doing it for attention.


Seriously, did you not bother to look into it, or do you think pulling cotton out and running water through it is like, hard or difficult in some way? Did your water get shut off? Do you live in a third world country where the water is not clean? Because tequila would extract it just as well.

But seriously, the reason no one is helping him is NOT because no one knows, it's because everyone is laughing at him.

I was trying to get his ass to go do it.:p I'm not even that stupid.

mari juana
2008-01-17, 20:46
get some real meth!

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-17, 22:01
Are you fucking kidding me? Did you even bother to look into how simple and shitty this is. As a matter of fact, I forthwith call troll, because that extraction is fucked and I think he is doing it for attention.


Seriously, did you not bother to look into it, or do you think pulling cotton out and running water through it is like, hard or difficult in some way? Did your water get shut off? Do you live in a third world country where the water is not clean? Because tequila would extract it just as well.

But seriously, the reason no one is helping him is NOT because no one knows, it's because everyone is laughing at him.


And having seen the post above this one, I'd like to say death snuggle shut the fuck up, you don't know shit, go crawl back in your hole noob. It's a simple motherfucking water extraction and one dimwit is like, durr ken i use da nonpolar solvent 2 extract teh polar compound? and then the other dimwit is like ya dud if u leik raed stuffz bout it den it shud be gewd.


Seriously WTF. How many dipshits does it take to run water through cotton?

Death snuggle you ignorant fucking nigger

holy shit man im sorry for asking a question i was interested in. you have the knowledge to help me, but instead you just talk down on it. why? your not doing it. you dont have to do it. but some noob is asking a chemistry question. thats all man. if you just said that the HCL was not needed, that could have been it.

Death Snuggle
2008-01-17, 22:08
holy shit man im sorry for asking a question i was interested in. you have the knowledge to help me, but instead you just talk down on it. why? your not doing it. you dont have to do it. but some noob is asking a chemistry question. thats all man. if you just said that the HCL was not needed, that could have been it.

Aww... it's too much to ask you to experiment? Sorry, I'm as white as white can be... kinda pasty actually....

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-17, 23:57
Aww... it's too much to ask you to experiment? Sorry, I'm as white as white can be... kinda pasty actually....

many reputable sources say thats the correct procedure. they say the only thing is intranasal burns like no other so you have to make it a nasal solution. i wonder if you could smoke it..........puff the prolly dragon

silverballs
2008-01-18, 00:09
i wonder if you could smoke it..........puff the prolly dragon

You intend to take it out of an inhaler... to...smoke it?
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:mad:

Death Snuggle
2008-01-18, 00:11
If you know the vaporizing point is far enough below the point where the chemical starts degrading, I'd say go for it. Or just man up and snort it.

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-18, 04:38
If you know the vaporizing point is far enough below the point where the chemical starts degrading, I'd say go for it. Or just man up and snort it.

i dont know if your being sarcastic seeing as how you just said i cant believe hes gonna do that procedure. if you do look around, thats the one a/b extraction thats most commonly used by people that have been doing prop. for years. i hear getting the right ratio of water to hcl crystals and putting that in a nasal spray bottle is the best. still burns, but everyone does say you must have a nose made of steel to snort pure crystals. regardless of what i read about smoking it, im def. going to do it anyway knowing me and just having to do it. but if it works that would prove a great step in the ROA department.

xxdarksidexx
2008-01-18, 22:40
I bet pure propyl would be pretty damn good.I ate the cotton a couple times and got the menthol burps for 2 days and stomach churning.Like you said,if you could eliminate the cotton this could be a very useful pick me up drug.I will note that the crash is shitty though.Nothing a couple v's cant fix.

stupid noob
2008-01-22, 19:53
Too bad we don't have a Dumb Ideas forum to move this to.

Death Snuggle
2008-01-22, 20:17
i dont know if your being sarcastic seeing as how you just said i cant believe hes gonna do that procedure. if you do look around, thats the one a/b extraction thats most commonly used by people that have been doing prop. for years. i hear getting the right ratio of water to hcl crystals and putting that in a nasal spray bottle is the best. still burns, but everyone does say you must have a nose made of steel to snort pure crystals. regardless of what i read about smoking it, im def. going to do it anyway knowing me and just having to do it. but if it works that would prove a great step in the ROA department.

I've snorted 2c-t-7. I don't think there a very many other chemicals that could be as painful as that one. It's really quite interesting to snort into the sinus with the nerve damage though. It feels like someone just lit the inside of your face on fire and the pain travels and is felt on all the nerve damaged areas on the left side of my face. The other sinus take it way easier ironically enough. I've had countless people tell me Ambien, Xannax, 2c-i, and quite few other things burn, but it isn't shit compared to t7. The first time I did it I thought I was going to die. Fucking great memories...

stupid noob
2008-01-22, 20:24
xanax isn't shit, though I can't say about the 2C analogues personally, but I do know (as shameful as it is) that snorting welbutrin is the most painful thing I've ever put in my nose.

Death Snuggle
2008-01-22, 20:35
I know that t7 will drop my ass hard with pain and then the fucking vertigo hit and I'm on my ass spinning. It's hard to tell exactly where the actual pain ends and the vertigo/nausea begin.

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-22, 22:22
never snorted t7, but it was a fav drug. 2c-e was pretty fuckin painful. the extraction is comming along very nicely. the liquid is getting very viscous ans the sides are really forming nice patterns. on the edge of the liquid remaining there are little block of crystals stacked on top of eachother like baby blocks. i will take pics after all the liquid is gone. looks like its gunna be a good chase.

Time Out Sasquatch
2008-01-22, 22:22
The most painful thing I've ever snorted was a generic sudafed tablet. I was in 7th grade. Dumb I know. It burned worse then meth and 2ci, the most painful things I've ever snorted.

landspeed_presents
2008-01-22, 22:46
xanax isn't shit, though I can't say about the 2C analogues personally, but I do know (as shameful as it is) that snorting welbutrin is the most painful thing I've ever put in my nose.

Try Lexapro. lol.

absolutecaliber
2008-01-23, 00:18
I think it's wrong to bash something out of pure vanity.

+1 for actually pursuing what this forums all about.

Chemical Eudaemonia
2008-01-23, 00:43
hey abso

hows it going?

consciouscowboy
2008-01-23, 00:52
I think it's wrong to bash something out of pure vanity.

+1 for actually pursuing what this forums all about.

Yes Doctor!

boobsled
2008-01-23, 04:14
i actually use an even simpler way , and i know the end product its shittier than meth but over here meth is $400 a g so if i can make this for $25 and get a bit of a buz i say why not...

Everyone knows that Benzedrex inhalers contain Propylhexedrine, an amphetamine like compound that is also called hexahydromethamphetamine.

Well everyone knows swallowing the cotton can give a great amphetamien buzz. But no reports to this point have been suggested for smoking the compound!

Well ill be the first!!!!


i bought 4 benzedrex inhalers. Each containing 250mg Propylhexedrine freebase. I cut open all 4 inhalers and cut each cotton into tiny pieces and put all these cotton pieces in a shot glass sized beaker. A shot glass will work for you home-chemists.

Next was added 4 tablespoons of Water and 1.5 tablespoons of Muriatic Acid (31.45% hydrochloric acid from the hardware store). This was mixed with the cottons and the cottons were pressed against the walls to try to get as much of the freebase propylhexedrine to convert to propylhexedrine HCL which is soluble in water.

AFter mixing and mashing for about 20 minutes with the back end of a knife, i poured the cottons and liquid through a strainer. Then squeezed the excess liquid from the cottons and threw them away. Now im left with this 50-60ml of cloudy liquid.

I put this on a glass dish and heated it and evaporated the excess liquid. It got down to about 1-2ml of liquid and i still didnt see any crystals or any sign of the propylhexedrine so i was getting upset. But after the final bit of water/acid evapped, crystals were all over the place. i scraped them up and they were an off-white kind of brown substance. Yield was about 90-100%!!! i had about a gram of this powder!

So now you say you got your gram of propylhexedrine hcl powder, now what?

i took a pen cap and scooped a little bit of the powder onto a piece of aluminum foil. i had a piece of straw in my mouth. I lit near the bottom of the foil with a lighter but didnt touch it, and the powder began to liquify before becoming smoke. Then as i smoked the vapor, it tasted very sweat. AFter a few hits i couldnt help but notice my energy was waaay up and i was very euphoric. And my heart was going pretty good.

i thought, wow this shit is extremely strong when smoked. Orally people take like 250mg, but this wasnt more than 50-100mg and i felt it very strong0

tweeked
2008-01-23, 05:03
dude, ocular injection is where its at.

TheBlackPope
2008-01-23, 05:07
i actually use an even simpler way , and i know the end product its shittier than meth but over here meth is $400 a g so if i can make this for $25 and get a bit of a buz i say why not...

Everyone knows that Benzedrex inhalers contain Propylhexedrine, an amphetamine like compound that is also called hexahydromethamphetamine.

Well everyone knows swallowing the cotton can give a great amphetamien buzz. But no reports to this point have been suggested for smoking the compound!

Well ill be the first!!!!


i bought 4 benzedrex inhalers. Each containing 250mg Propylhexedrine freebase. I cut open all 4 inhalers and cut each cotton into tiny pieces and put all these cotton pieces in a shot glass sized beaker. A shot glass will work for you home-chemists.

Next was added 4 tablespoons of Water and 1.5 tablespoons of Muriatic Acid (31.45% hydrochloric acid from the hardware store). This was mixed with the cottons and the cottons were pressed against the walls to try to get as much of the freebase propylhexedrine to convert to propylhexedrine HCL which is soluble in water.

AFter mixing and mashing for about 20 minutes with the back end of a knife, i poured the cottons and liquid through a strainer. Then squeezed the excess liquid from the cottons and threw them away. Now im left with this 50-60ml of cloudy liquid.

I put this on a glass dish and heated it and evaporated the excess liquid. It got down to about 1-2ml of liquid and i still didnt see any crystals or any sign of the propylhexedrine so i was getting upset. But after the final bit of water/acid evapped, crystals were all over the place. i scraped them up and they were an off-white kind of brown substance. Yield was about 90-100%!!! i had about a gram of this powder!

So now you say you got your gram of propylhexedrine hcl powder, now what?

i took a pen cap and scooped a little bit of the powder onto a piece of aluminum foil. i had a piece of straw in my mouth. I lit near the bottom of the foil with a lighter but didnt touch it, and the powder began to liquify before becoming smoke. Then as i smoked the vapor, it tasted very sweat. AFter a few hits i couldnt help but notice my energy was waaay up and i was very euphoric. And my heart was going pretty good.

i thought, wow this shit is extremely strong when smoked. Orally people take like 250mg, but this wasnt more than 5-10mg and i felt it very strong

Why don't you just inhale the benedrex?

You think you picked 5mg out of 1000mg? That is 1/200th.

I really doubt you have the precision to see, pick out and smoke 1/200th of a gram of benedrex.

OFf topic, has anyone ever shot?

jamaica0535
2008-01-23, 05:12
Why don't you just inhale the benedrex?

You think you picked 5mg out of 1000mg? That is 1/200th.

I really doubt you have the precision to see, pick out and smoke 1/200th of a gram of benedrex.

OFf topic, has anyone ever shot?

ive heard of it being done... and ive also heard of it killing people...

boobsled
2008-01-23, 05:22
Why don't you just inhale the benedrex?

You think you picked 5mg out of 1000mg? That is 1/200th.

I really doubt you have the precision to see, pick out and smoke 1/200th of a gram of benedrex.

OFf topic, has anyone ever shot?

i meant 50-100mg aka a point

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-23, 07:09
i actually use an even simpler way , and i know the end product its shittier than meth but over here meth is $400 a g so if i can make this for $25 and get a bit of a buz i say why not...

Everyone knows that Benzedrex inhalers contain Propylhexedrine, an amphetamine like compound that is also called hexahydromethamphetamine.

Well everyone knows swallowing the cotton can give a great amphetamien buzz. But no reports to this point have been suggested for smoking the compound!

Well ill be the first!!!!


i bought 4 benzedrex inhalers. Each containing 250mg Propylhexedrine freebase. I cut open all 4 inhalers and cut each cotton into tiny pieces and put all these cotton pieces in a shot glass sized beaker. A shot glass will work for you home-chemists.

Next was added 4 tablespoons of Water and 1.5 tablespoons of Muriatic Acid (31.45% hydrochloric acid from the hardware store). This was mixed with the cottons and the cottons were pressed against the walls to try to get as much of the freebase propylhexedrine to convert to propylhexedrine HCL which is soluble in water.

AFter mixing and mashing for about 20 minutes with the back end of a knife, i poured the cottons and liquid through a strainer. Then squeezed the excess liquid from the cottons and threw them away. Now im left with this 50-60ml of cloudy liquid.

I put this on a glass dish and heated it and evaporated the excess liquid. It got down to about 1-2ml of liquid and i still didnt see any crystals or any sign of the propylhexedrine so i was getting upset. But after the final bit of water/acid evapped, crystals were all over the place. i scraped them up and they were an off-white kind of brown substance. Yield was about 90-100%!!! i had about a gram of this powder!

So now you say you got your gram of propylhexedrine hcl powder, now what?

i took a pen cap and scooped a little bit of the powder onto a piece of aluminum foil. i had a piece of straw in my mouth. I lit near the bottom of the foil with a lighter but didnt touch it, and the powder began to liquify before becoming smoke. Then as i smoked the vapor, it tasted very sweat. AFter a few hits i couldnt help but notice my energy was waaay up and i was very euphoric. And my heart was going pretty good.

i thought, wow this shit is extremely strong when smoked. Orally people take like 250mg, but this wasnt more than 50-100mg and i felt it very strong0

there is talk of folks smoking the crystals. im pretty sure the off white/brown color describes too much acid used ratio wise. but dude congrats and i cant wait to smoke mine. i hear intranasal is really really good. but burns like the sun. btw, did you filter your solution really well after you took the cottons out, cuz me being a fuckin idiot( i dont know where my head was at on this one) didn't filter and was left with a lot of tiny cotton strands. how do you know your yield? do you have a good scale? i dont trust anything but a real mg scale. had too many bad readings with every cheap mg scale. had to get me an acculab. and if you didnt filter, the cotton could account for the extra weight. theres no way you got 90-100%.


edit: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2efFrMgoGTE

boobsled
2008-01-23, 08:24
yes i filtered it, and i got around .9 grams which is equal to 900mg.........let me know what you think, it is 100% smokable.

the half unlit
2008-01-23, 13:13
Seriously WTF. How many dipshits does it take to run water through cotton?

Death snuggle you ignorant fucking nigger

Oh man you made me laugh so hard. Maybe he wants the crystals to smoke like NitrousBuddy, but I wonder if smoking the crystals have the same effect as just inhaling it. I know you probably dont get that shitty menthol taste, it might just be worth it to a tweeker.

But that shit is so killed out for me.

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-23, 20:29
yes i filtered it, and i got around .9 grams which is equal to 900mg.........let me know what you think, it is 100% smokable.

good shit bro.....how long was the onset? how long was the duration?

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-23, 20:32
Oh man you made me laugh so hard. Maybe he wants the crystals to smoke like NitrousBuddy, but I wonder if smoking the crystals have the same effect as just inhaling it. I know you probably dont get that shitty menthol taste, it might just be worth it to a tweeker.

But that shit is so killed out for me.

what do you mean inhaling it? you mean like just snuffing it legitly? cuz that only gives like micrograms in every snuff. not worth it. im sure smoking has the best bio. avail.

xxdarksidexx
2008-01-23, 22:43
xanax isn't shit, though I can't say about the 2C analogues personally, but I do know (as shameful as it is) that snorting welbutrin is the most painful thing I've ever put in my nose.

I cant believe you said that.I had to cut my dope one time and all I had was welbutrin pills.What a fuckin mistake.Worse burn by far, by fucking far.

TheBlackPope
2008-01-26, 22:38
Does this shit fail for amphetamines on drug tests?

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-26, 23:27
Does this shit fail for amphetamines?

so ill tell you the truth. i dont like writing online about good things discovered cuz then itll get hype and get takin off the shelves. my extraction was very successful, and the crystals were gorgeous. snorting it burns like a fuckin 2c-x. way not worth it. it burns your throat as it drips. oral has the longest duration, but you need a good bit. smoking it is what i do. its very addictive. i usually chase around 10mg. i like to call this stuff zombie speed. it really relaxes my body, and gives a warm fuzzy feeling throughout, but makes my heart thump. overall, its def. worth it. but dont tell anybody i told you.

TheBlackPope
2008-01-27, 06:53
so ill tell you the truth. i dont like writing online about good things discovered cuz then itll get hype and get takin off the shelves. my extraction was very successful, and the crystals were gorgeous. snorting it burns like a fuckin 2c-x. way not worth it. it burns your throat as it drips. oral has the longest duration, but you need a good bit. smoking it is what i do. its very addictive. i usually chase around 10mg. i like to call this stuff zombie speed. it really relaxes my body, and gives a warm fuzzy feeling throughout, but makes my heart thump. overall, its def. worth it. but dont tell anybody i told you.

I meant on drug test. Does this fail for amphetamines on drug tests.

I know this is legit, I orally dropped 375mg for the first time on Friday and I actually felt euphoric. No amount of Adderall of any other ADHD med gives me euphoria, just gets me tweaked. Even w/ meth I need to smoke it to feel euphoria.

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-27, 17:54
I meant on drug test. Does this fail for amphetamines on drug tests.

I know this is legit, I orally dropped 375mg for the first time on Friday and I actually felt euphoric. No amount of Adderall of any other ADHD med gives me euphoria, just gets me tweaked. Even w/ meth I need to smoke it to feel euphoria.

oooo didnt know what you meant. it isnt an amphetamine so to the best of my knowledge its not comin up on the drug test. i would suggest doing an extraction. my yield was actually 90% and smoking only requires 10-20mg for a nice euphoric 30-45 minutes. i just smoke that shit all day.

TheBlackPope
2008-01-27, 21:54
What is the taste of the smoke like?

And do you mean 100mg? Like 1/10 of a gram? I'm shure you don't mean 1/100th of a gram.

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-27, 23:18
What is the taste of the smoke like?

And do you mean 100mg? Like 1/10 of a gram? I'm shure you don't mean 1/100th of a gram.

i actually kinda enjoy the taste of the smoke now. after you do it like 2 times it becomes like normal. i cant really describe, but its not nasty like other things i have vaped. and yea man 10mg not 100. vaping 100mg of this shit i could not imagine.

edit: btw, the high lasts longer then 30-45 now that i think of it. but it def ranges from like 30-60min.

TheBlackPope
2008-01-28, 00:12
i actually kinda enjoy the taste of the smoke now. after you do it like 2 times it becomes like normal. i cant really describe, but its not nasty like other things i have vaped. and yea man 10mg not 100. vaping 100mg of this shit i could not imagine.

edit: btw, the high lasts longer then 30-45 now that i think of it. but it def ranges from like 30-60min.

Can you compare the taste of this to the taste of meth for me?

10mg... That would mean from 4 benedrex inhalers I could get 100 doses. Something sounds wrong.

Especially because oral is 250-500mg. Smoking a drug doesn't devided its oral dose by 25-50...

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-28, 05:28
Can you compare the taste of this to the taste of meth for me?

10mg... That would mean from 4 benedrex inhalers I could get 100 doses. Something sounds wrong.

Especially because oral is 250-500mg. Smoking a drug doesn't devided its oral dose by 25-50...

ive never done meth-amphetamine. only other types. and yes man 10-20-mg depending on where you wanna be. and vaping some drugs do cut their doses down very much. you will get a good yield on this shit. and smoking it is the most conservative way.

TheBlackPope
2008-01-28, 07:04
ive never done meth-amphetamine. only other types. and yes man 10-20-mg depending on where you wanna be. and vaping some drugs do cut their doses down very much. you will get a good yield on this shit. and smoking it is the most conservative way.

Ok I'm going to rephrase this question one more time.

You payed 20 dollers for 4 benedrex inhalers. Or you shoplifted them like I did.

You extracted roughly a gram, which is 1000mg. You are claiming that 10mg gets you high. That is 100 doses..for 20 dollers.

Do you see where this doesnt make sence? Are you shure you don't mean 100mg and think that a gram is = to 100 instead of 1000?

If what your saying is true, then wow. I'll try this soon.

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-28, 23:08
Ok I'm going to rephrase this question one more time.

You payed 20 dollers for 4 benedrex inhalers. Or you shoplifted them like I did.

You extracted roughly a gram, which is 1000mg. You are claiming that 10mg gets you high. That is 100 doses..for 20 dollers.

Do you see where this doesnt make sence? Are you shure you don't mean 100mg and think that a gram is = to 100 instead of 1000?

If what your saying is true, then wow. I'll try this soon.

im not taking this as looking down on me cuz you dont know me and its straight, but if its one thing i know its my doses in mg. im a big seller of the 2c-x's. i used to measure pills out in the hundreds. in doses of 50-350mg. i have an acculab vicon-303. its a very nice scale. i found one new for 300. very good deal. i suggest this scale for anyone that wants a very consistent scale at a very affordable price. but yes bro. its a very good yield all around this drug. but fuck it lets say the dose was 60mg. your still very good. and trust me chasing 60mg of the ZOmBIE -SPeeD will fleet ur fuxin ass up

edit: i forgot to mention other chems. cuz none of the 2c's have a dose of 350mg.

2007
2008-01-30, 23:52
You intend to take it out of an inhaler... to...smoke it?
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:mad:

No, he's obviously referring to rolling a paper around the inhaler and smoking it, as any sane person would. :D

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-31, 00:51
No, he's obviously referring to rolling a paper around the inhaler and smoking it, as any sane person would. :D

thanks for the bump. and to TheBlackPope; did you do an extraction? are you planning to?

TheBlackPope
2008-01-31, 04:49
thanks for the bump. and to TheBlackPope; did you do an extraction? are you planning to?

I don't want to have to buy HCl as I still live w/ my parents. I'm going to do a citric acid extraction, and I'm also looking on the internet for buying powder too.

Nothing on the internet has been promising, so far.

Also, tell me exactly how it feels to snort this (physical feeling of snorting, taste etc.) and the taste of smoking it?

silverballs
2008-01-31, 06:54
I don't want to have to buy HCl as I still live w/ my parents. I'm going to do a citric acid extraction, and I'm also looking on the internet for buying powder too.


Go to a hardware store, buy muriatic acid, proceed... :)

TheBlackPope
2008-01-31, 07:21
Go to a hardware store, buy muriatic acid, proceed... :)

I know how and where to get murry you cunt.

I'm not living in my dad's house so that shit isn't chill anymore.

silverballs
2008-01-31, 07:41
I know how and where to get murry you cunt.

I'm not living in my dad's house so that shit isn't chill anymore.

Say you're going to clean the driveway. :)

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-31, 07:42
I don't want to have to buy HCl as I still live w/ my parents. I'm going to do a citric acid extraction, and I'm also looking on the internet for buying powder too.

Nothing on the internet has been promising, so far.

Also, tell me exactly how it feels to snort this (physical feeling of snorting, taste etc.) and the taste of smoking it?

citric could work. snorting to me is outta the question. that shit burns horribly. it burns as it drips and stings your throat real bad. trust me, you could never snort the amount needed. smoking is the best. the taste really is kinda sweet. its not bad and you start to enjoy it. i cant really describe, but its nothing negative. im about all out of my shit. its very good and i smoke it like every 2 hours. speakin of that..........

edit: this shit makes me soo fukin horny. i beat just about everytime i do it. i also really think it raises your arousal level. after doing it for a week i can def. come to the conclusion that is very worth it. it costs about $5.99 at my local CVS and a gram would only cost about 26 bucks. it also compliments a bowl of dank quite nicely.

TheBlackPope
2008-01-31, 20:28
citric could work. snorting to me is outta the question. that shit burns horribly. it burns as it drips and stings your throat real bad. trust me, you could never snort the amount needed. smoking is the best. the taste really is kinda sweet. its not bad and you start to enjoy it. i cant really describe, but its nothing negative. im about all out of my shit. its very good and i smoke it like every 2 hours. speakin of that..........

edit: this shit makes me soo fukin horny. i beat just about everytime i do it. i also really think it raises your arousal level. after doing it for a week i can def. come to the conclusion that is very worth it. it costs about $5.99 at my local CVS and a gram would only cost about 26 bucks. it also compliments a bowl of dank quite nicely.

How do you keep it up bro? My shit can't even get past 75% hard. It's embarassing. It hurts. I spoke to someone who said it taste like burt rubber, but you say it's sweet? Theres alot of conflicting reports on thsi.

NitrousBuddy
2008-01-31, 22:12
How do you keep it up bro? My shit can't even get past 75% hard. It's embarassing. It hurts. I spoke to someone who said it taste like burt rubber, but you say it's sweet? Theres alot of conflicting reports on thsi.

i allways loves amp-dick. it made my dick feel good when i even touched it. jerking off was never a problem on speedy drugs. it made me wanna jerk off more. sometimes ill bust a nut with it 75% up but it feels the same cumming, if not better. i can def. say it doesnt taste like burnt rubber or burnt plastic. trust me, if it did, i wouldnt be able to smoke a point of this shit. its do-able. the taste is more then do-able.

TheBlackPope
2008-02-01, 06:45
i allways loves amp-dick. it made my dick feel good when i even touched it. jerking off was never a problem on speedy drugs. it made me wanna jerk off more. sometimes ill bust a nut with it 75% up but it feels the same cumming, if not better. i can def. say it doesnt taste like burnt rubber or burnt plastic. trust me, if it did, i wouldnt be able to smoke a point of this shit. its do-able. the taste is more then do-able.

Ok, I'm down w/ snorting methamphetamine, I actually enjoy the burn from that. I'm assuming this is going to be worse, but I'll try to handle it. How much do you think I'll need?

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-01, 07:23
Ok, I'm down w/ snorting methamphetamine, I actually enjoy the burn from that. I'm assuming this is going to be worse, but I'll try to handle it. How much do you think I'll need?

im telling you man i wouldnt snort it. i put 1mg in my nose and it burned like a lighter being held up to my nose. i couldnt imagine in a million years ever putting like 70mg of this shit in my nose. just smoke it.

TheBlackPope
2008-02-01, 08:02
Ok, I am trying this w/ citric acid.

I used 1.5-2oz of H20 (Not distilled)
1.0-1.3 half teaspoons of citric acid (The jew salt)
Put it in a small salt shaker type thing.
I did that at 11:45 PM and I'm going to shake it and let it chill until 12:30.
I'll edit as it happens.

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-01, 23:56
Ok, I am trying this w/ citric acid.

I used 1.5-2oz of H20 (Not distilled)
1.0-1.3 half teaspoons of citric acid (The jew salt)
Put it in a small salt shaker type thing.
I did that at 11:45 PM and I'm going to shake it and let it chill until 12:30.
I'll edit as it happens.

i wonder how this is going to come out. how many cottons did you use?

absolutecaliber
2008-02-02, 01:22
Dude just cook it up and shoot it, best part is that you dont even need a filter cotton, its already there.... omg im so speedy right now.

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-02, 02:33
Dude just cook it up and shoot it, best part is that you dont even need a filter cotton, its already there.... omg im so speedy right now.

you know you look like a fuckin idiott. so do all the other fucks who doubt propyl. the fucking facts are right in your face, and you still mock it. well my good sir, i think you are the one to mock. ive done the extraction. it was successful. yield was awsome. smoking was great.

TheBlackPope
2008-02-02, 02:48
Ok, I had it down to a puddle and then I fucked it up.

I got inpatient, and microved the fuck out of it and it burnt up.

I scraped the yellow resin (No crystals at all) and it made this yellow ball, reminded me of opium.

This morning after school I fired it up on some tin foil, didn't do anything and hurt the underside of my tounge.

I have stolen all the benzedrex from the only store that I know carries it. I have to wait until restock.. ha.

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-03, 03:23
Ok, I had it down to a puddle and then I fucked it up.

I got inpatient, and microved the fuck out of it and it burnt up.

I scraped the yellow resin (No crystals at all) and it made this yellow ball, reminded me of opium.

This morning after school I fired it up on some tin foil, didn't do anything and hurt the underside of my tounge.

I have stolen all the benzedrex from the only store that I know carries it. I have to wait until restock.. ha.

i was gunna tell you not to microwave it.....i dont know why i didnt. but i would wait dude and use muriatic. theres got to be some way you can go to a hardware store and get some. i live in my parents house too. its not dangerous if you just handle with care. im not telling you this, im just saying.

TheBlackPope
2008-02-03, 05:08
i was gunna tell you not to microwave it.....i dont know why i didnt. but i would wait dude and use muriatic. theres got to be some way you can go to a hardware store and get some. i live in my parents house too. its not dangerous if you just handle with care. im not telling you this, im just saying.

I don't have my hotplate any moar so how would I go about evaporating it? I'm not about to let it sit out for a week or moar and hope no one notices it while its evaping.

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-03, 07:14
I don't have my hotplate any moar so how would I go about evaporating it? I'm not about to let it sit out for a week or moar and hope no one notices it while its evaping.

i didnt use a hot plate only cuz i have a bathroom in my room and my parents never come into either, so i just let it sit on my bathroom counter for a week. i also sometimes let the dish sit in boiling hot water in my tub. and the place you leave it def. has to be vented. the muriatic comes off it like a bitch. i dont know what to tell you. maybe somewhere in the house no one goes often, and well hidden.

edit: i was thinking about just chasing the cotton itself. it sounds retarded but isnt the propyl. freebase in the cotton? maybe if you cut up the side with the most propyl. soaked in it, chase on some foil, and take the cotton off with some tweezers after the propyl. is liquified on the tin and seperated from the cotton. im just guessing this would happen. but im pretty sure it would be do-able. im out of money, so no cottons, but Pope if you have an inhaler lying around try that out.

house
2008-02-03, 08:03
dude caffeine is a better drug than prop


prop fucking sucks ass

its not worth it

but hell if its what you want to do then go ahead im not stopping you

Chemical Eudaemonia
2008-02-03, 09:05
dude caffeine is a better drug than prop


prop fucking sucks ass

its not worth it

but hell if its what you want to do then go ahead im not stopping you


damn man you must be getting some dank caffeine

TheBlackPope
2008-02-03, 09:40
but hell if its what you want to do then go ahead im not stopping you

Not like anyone would give a fuck.

Nitrous, you can oven that shit too if you want, it will take a few hours but faster then a few weeks.

FBing cotton sounds dumb as fuck.

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-04, 03:33
Not like anyone would give a fuck.

Nitrous, you can oven that shit too if you want, it will take a few hours but faster then a few weeks.

FBing cotton sounds dumb as fuck.

the only oven i have is in the kitchen, and that will reek the whole house of muriatic. i dont think freebasin the cotton is that stupid. it might vaporize the propyl. thats soaked in the cotton. and btw, i thought you said the extraction didnt work, but you made a thread about smoking 100mgof propyl. did i miss something?

Ave2
2008-02-04, 04:59
damn man you must be getting some dank caffeine

shut up, you are an African American Crack/cocaine user

Chemical Eudaemonia
2008-02-04, 05:03
shut up, you are an African American Crack/cocaine user

i smoke crack and do lines to ease the pain from 500 years of slavery of my people. you white boiz can all go 2 hell whyle i rape ur muthas

peace

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-04, 07:16
NitrousBuddy, do you have AIM or MSN, or an email to each you at?

nitrousbuddy@gmail.com

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-06, 00:32
bumps for black pope

TheBlackPope
2008-02-06, 02:55
I smoked ~100mg of thaat gak shit.

How do you suggest evaping mutraic w/o a hotplate?

incorporated
2008-02-06, 03:12
I smoked ~100mg of thaat gak shit.

How do you suggest evaping mutraic w/o a hotplate?

Two cans, a tea candle and some wet sand, a la many nano synths.

Or, here's what I did, as I recently performed this extraction (and was pretty dissatisfied with the results [which looked and tasted similar to most all reports I've come across]):

http://i27.tinypic.com/2i0rgcj.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/301zkoj.jpg

The box was there because of spatial difficulties involving the flask not dangling over the candle correctly. It was easier to set the box+various other items up so as to keep the flask over the flame.

It may look like a fire hazard, but it didn't fuck up. I was also sitting a few feet away the entire time the candle was lit, mini fire extinguisher in hand.

I had absolutely nothing to build a stand with and it was Superbowl Sunday with my house hosting a vast array of guests. So, I did what I could with fishing line, I fixed it to my ceiling and tied the other end on the top of the flask. I let this hover above the flame enough so as to facilitate evaporation but at a low enough temp to not fuck up the procedure (which I did, out of impatience on the first run).

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-06, 09:40
Two cans, a tea candle and some wet sand, a la many nano synths.

Or, here's what I did, as I recently performed this extraction (and was pretty dissatisfied with the results [which looked and tasted similar to most all reports I've come across]):

http://i27.tinypic.com/2i0rgcj.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/301zkoj.jpg

The box was there because of spatial difficulties involving the flask not dangling over the candle correctly. It was easier to set the box+various other items up so as to keep the flask over the flame.

It may look like a fire hazard, but it didn't fuck up. I was also sitting a few feet away the entire time the candle was lit, mini fire extinguisher in hand.

I had absolutely nothing to build a stand with and it was Superbowl Sunday with my house hosting a vast array of guests. So, I did what I could with fishing line, I fixed it to my ceiling and tied the other end on the top of the flask. I let this hover above the flame enough so as to facilitate evaporation but at a low enough temp to not fuck up the procedure (which I did, out of impatience on the first run).

you were trying to evap the shit in a flask? wtf? you were dissatisfied my friend becuase it didnt turn out well for YOU. dont talk about personal things. it worked just fine for me, and many other people. so talk about yourself. and in a flask!?!?!

TheBlackPope
2008-02-07, 23:12
NitrousBuddy can you tell me the exact method you used to extract this? Didyou use ISO, or Acetone or anything else aside from HCl and evaporation?

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-07, 23:48
NitrousBuddy can you tell me the exact method you used to extract this? Didyou use ISO, or Acetone or anything else aside from HCl and evaporation?

follow the method i posted in the first post of this thread. it worked perfectly. even though there are no exact measurements for the liquids just follow how it says to do it. i used hardware grade muriatic (31.45%) and 90% isopropyl. dont use as many drops as it says for muriatic. i prob put 5-7 drops less. but yea just follow step by step that procedure.

incorporated
2008-02-08, 02:59
NitrousBuddy can you tell me the exact method you used to extract this? Didyou use ISO, or Acetone or anything else aside from HCl and evaporation?

Weren't you already successful in an extraction? I definitely used the ether and IPA, as per the original write up. The amounts aren't too hard to figure out with some pH paper.

I also gave the final product and acetone wash to clean it up a little more. And, yes, I used a flask, it was the only glass I have that I could've tied like that. I don't usually work in such a half-assed environment, but I was extracting propylhexedrine, how serious can you expect me to take it?

TheBlackPope
2008-02-08, 04:23
Weren't you already successful in an extraction? I definitely used the ether and IPA, as per the original write up. The amounts aren't too hard to figure out with some pH paper.

I also gave the final product and acetone wash to clean it up a little more. And, yes, I used a flask, it was the only glass I have that I could've tied like that. I don't usually work in such a half-assed environment, but I was extracting propylhexedrine, how serious can you expect me to take it?

I fucked it up and it turned out to be gakk instead of crystal.

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-08, 06:05
Weren't you already successful in an extraction? I definitely used the ether and IPA, as per the original write up. The amounts aren't too hard to figure out with some pH paper.

I also gave the final product and acetone wash to clean it up a little more. And, yes, I used a flask, it was the only glass I have that I could've tied like that. I don't usually work in such a half-assed environment, but I was extracting propylhexedrine, how serious can you expect me to take it?

just cuz it doesnt have the best name, doesnt mean you should half ass it. mine came out just fine, and i was expecting nothing to happen. to pope: i dont know man maybe you should try again. if you didnt follow the procedure 100% this time, then try it again. if you think its worth it. man, its been about 2 weeks that i havent had any and i really miss it. its very worth it to me.

TheBlackPope
2008-02-08, 16:01
just cuz it doesnt have the best name, doesnt mean you should half ass it. mine came out just fine, and i was expecting nothing to happen. to pope: i dont know man maybe you should try again. if you didnt follow the procedure 100% this time, then try it again. if you think its worth it. man, its been about 2 weeks that i havent had any and i really miss it. its very worth it to me.

This drug is legit, I'm on vacation right now I'll do it your way when I get back home. I want to get a fucking hotplate, though. I had a scientific one I stole from school w/ temperature controls in C, so fucking legit, but I lent it to someone..never came back.

NitrousBuddy
2008-02-08, 22:20
This drug is legit, I'm on vacation right now I'll do it your way when I get back home. I want to get a fucking hotplate, though. I had a scientific one I stole from school w/ temperature controls in C, so fucking legit, but I lent it to someone..never came back.

yea i wouldnt mind a hot plate. might invest in one. it takes about a week to fully evaporate. i kinda just tell myself that ill get the drug in a week. just to trick myself alil and make it easier for the wait.