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Psilocybe
2008-02-13, 16:31
Why do people always blow it out right away? It is impossible for some bullshit like "it crystalizes on your lungs" to happen and you won't get wierd impurities in you unless you smoke shit meth. It is a complete waste of the majority of the vapors yet everyone seems to do it this way. Does anything bad actually happen if you smoke it like weed and hold it in as long as you can that isn't a retarded myth?

Incubustis
2008-02-13, 16:52
Meth smoke is disgusting and horrible for you no matter how long you hold it in. I'd imagine holding it in longer is just going to be harder on your lungs, but thats it. I do hate when people say "OMG it will crystalize in your lungs d00d", its like come on, use common fucking sense. Since when does something crystalize on a moist, 98 degree surface such as your lungs? :rolleyes:

Scumdog666
2008-02-13, 17:08
I can't source it, but I've read that their have been studied showing that a simple inhale-exhale with weed does the trick just fine, and anything you feel from holding it in can be attributed to...holding your breath. I'd assume it's the same for other substances.

Incubustis
2008-02-13, 17:16
I'd assume it's the same for other substances. I wouldn't. Smoke from drugs like meth is completely different than smoke from weed. Meth-Chemicals, crystals. Weed-A plant. If you have ever smoked meth you would notice when you blow out there is still a huge cloud of thick white smoke, I wouldn't be suprised if holding it longer does increase absorption, but I don't have sources to back that up. I tend not to do to much research on meth smokin. ;-)

moonmeister
2008-02-13, 17:17
Meth: crystalizes in your mind & not in your mouth!

Scumdog666
2008-02-13, 17:18
I wouldn't. Smoke from drugs like meth is completely different than smoke from weed. Meth-Chemicals, crystals. Weed-A plant. If you have ever smoked meth you would notice when you blow out there is still a huge cloud of thick white smoke, I wouldn't be suprised if holding it longer does increase absorption, but I don't have sources to back that up. I tend not to do to much research on meth smokin. ;-)

Neither do I, but you make a good point- the substances are different to the point not drawing a parallel

Psilocybe
2008-02-13, 19:08
If you are smoking pure shit then anything exhaled is a complete waste. It would make more sense to take smaller hits and hold it in.

eon_blue
2008-02-13, 19:34
It doesn't make any difference how long you hold in a hit of meth. It's water soluble so it absorbs into your lungs instantly, assuming you actually inhaled it.

With pot on the other hand, it does matter how long you hold your hit in for as pot is fat-soluble and needs to be held longer to absorb.

Psilocybe
2008-02-13, 20:24
It doesn't make any difference how long you hold in a hit of meth. It's water soluble so it absorbs into your lungs instantly, assuming you actually inhaled it.

With pot on the other hand, it does matter how long you hold your hit in for as pot is fat-soluble and needs to be held longer to absorb.

Water-soluble things do not dissolve instantly, that makes no sense. They dissolve faster in a moist environment but not instantly. If you blow out smoke from smoking good meth, what the fuck do you think the smoke is?

steel211
2008-02-13, 21:16
i always hold my clouds in, after about 5-6 seconds of holding it in and exhale i barely notice any smoke. can't justify ever blowing out that much smoke, what a waste of good shit

i mean if you're gonna smoke meth at least fuckin do it right

thatcoolkid
2008-02-14, 02:16
With pot on the other hand, it does matter how long you hold your hit in for as pot is fat-soluble

Never mind the air sacs in your lungs are surrounded by a bi-lipid (fatty) membrane...

TheBlackPope
2008-02-14, 06:23
Why do people always blow it out right away? It is impossible for some bullshit like "it crystalizes on your lungs" to happen and you won't get wierd impurities in you unless you smoke shit meth. It is a complete waste of the majority of the vapors yet everyone seems to do it this way. Does anything bad actually happen if you smoke it like weed and hold it in as long as you can that isn't a retarded myth?

I agree it is retarded when people say that and retarded when they blow the smoke out too soon. I am the only one of my friends who inhales his smoke when tweaking. I only inhale for about 5 seconds though. I don't feel like I am getting anymoar out of it. I seem to think it has all absorbed.

W/ marijuana, when I used to smoke, I would inhale for as long as possible every time I took a hit. For some reason I just felt that it wasn't all getting absorbed.

There is no logic behind these thought processes, they just "feel" correct.


Scumdog666: STFU acolyte, you are stupid, there is no study saying that and you did not read it. You read it off of Totse along time ago from a bunch of retarded acolytes like yourself.

Incubutis: THC is a chemical you retard.

Metaphysicist
2008-02-14, 06:35
That bullshit about it crystallizing in your lungs is just that: Bullshit.

And the longer you hold it in, the more time it is in your lungs. The more time it's in your lungs, the more blood that flows through your lungs. The more blood that flows through your lungs, the more meth that gets in your blood.

Cozy Amnesia
2008-02-14, 06:40
Yeah it's bullshit, but just try telling a tweaker that. Try it, I dare you.
You'll get killed.

And meth smoke isn't that bad, not as bad as the crack I've smoked at least.

moonmeister
2008-02-14, 06:44
Yeah it's bullshit, but just try telling a tweaker that. Try it, I dare you.
You'll get killed.

And meth smoke isn't that bad, not as bad as the crack I've smoked at least.

There's a madness to your meth.

Internet-Weed-Dude
2008-02-14, 07:10
That bullshit about it crystallizing in your lungs is just that: Bullshit.

And the longer you hold it in, the more time it is in your lungs. The more time it's in your lungs, the more blood that flows through your lungs. The more blood that flows through your lungs, the more meth that gets in your blood.

I just learned something. Unles he's wrong.

SomeLowLife
2008-02-14, 07:18
but just try telling a tweaker that.



For real. I've pretty much given up on dispelling any drug myths to people because they are so adamant about staying retarded.

Incubustis
2008-02-14, 10:10
Incubutis: THC is a chemical you retard. Oh, no shit!? Where did I mention THC in that post? I said you are either smoking a plant (weed) or nasty crystalized chemicals. They produce smoke that has chemicals in it, of course, I never said it didn't, dipshit. Think before you speak.

vilbe
2008-02-14, 14:21
when you smoke things, meth, rock, dope. you hold the mother fucker in until you need some fucking air. don't waste shit that people are getting fucking killed over...



its not that way with pot, holding that in until you need air is just gonna put you out from smoking more quicker..

Internet-Weed-Dude
2008-02-14, 16:48
when you smoke things, meth, rock, dope. you hold the mother fucker in until you need some fucking air. don't waste shit that people are getting fucking killed over...



its not that way with pot, holding that in until you need air is just gonna put you out from smoking more quicker..

actually you are wrong. more of the drug is absorbed when you blow it out right away because it comes back through your mouth and nose where it is absorbed better than in your lungs. in your lungs all the drug is sucked up into the aveoli and doesn't get into the blood.

Metaphysicist
2008-02-14, 17:37
actually you are wrong. more of the drug is absorbed when you blow it out right away because it comes back through your mouth and nose where it is absorbed better than in your lungs. in your lungs all the drug is sucked up into the aveoli and doesn't get into the blood.


Wrong, so very wrong.

There are blood vessels all throughout the aveoli. How do you think oxygen and CO2 get exchanged through the lungs.

Internet-Weed-Dude
2008-02-14, 18:52
Wrong, so very wrong.

There are blood vessels all throughout the aveoli. How do you think oxygen and CO2 get exchanged through the lungs.

that's different.

Cobranaut
2008-02-14, 19:02
heard that if you blow out of your nose means ur gay and mouth exhale for straight ppl?? is this true i-weed00d?

Metaphysicist
2008-02-14, 19:08
that's different.


How do you figure? That is the way you ingest anything you smoke.

monks3080
2008-02-14, 19:12
actually you are wrong. more of the drug is absorbed when you blow it out right away because it comes back through your mouth and nose where it is absorbed better than in your lungs. in your lungs all the drug is sucked up into the aveoli and doesn't get into the blood.

Take one hit but don't inhale and breath it out your nose after 5 seconds. Now do the same but inhale and breath it out of your mouth. Fucking retard

Masero
2008-02-14, 19:13
Take one hit but don't inhale and breath it out your nose after 5 seconds. Now do the same but inhale and breath it out of your mouth. Fucking retard

Don't feed the troll.

neon
2008-02-14, 19:14
Why do people always blow it out right away? It is impossible for some bullshit like "it crystalizes on your lungs" to happen and you won't get wierd impurities in you unless you smoke shit meth. It is a complete waste of the majority of the vapors yet everyone seems to do it this way. Does anything bad actually happen if you smoke it like weed and hold it in as long as you can that isn't a retarded myth?i sure hope you are kidding, it's a good way to end up in the hospital. Unless my "k" is an idiot.

neon
2008-02-14, 19:16
It doesn't make any difference how long you hold in a hit of meth. It's water soluble so it absorbs into your lungs instantly, assuming you actually inhaled it.

With pot on the other hand, it does matter how long you hold your hit in for as pot is fat-soluble and needs to be held longer to absorb.Wrong, it is not water soluble.

neon
2008-02-14, 19:17
i always hold my clouds in, after about 5-6 seconds of holding it in and exhale i barely notice any smoke. can't justify ever blowing out that much smoke, what a waste of good shit

i mean if you're gonna smoke meth at least fuckin do it rightSee ya' at the hospital my man.

neon
2008-02-14, 19:18
That bullshit about it crystallizing in your lungs is just that: Bullshit.

And the longer you hold it in, the more time it is in your lungs. The more time it's in your lungs, the more blood that flows through your lungs. The more blood that flows through your lungs, the more meth that gets in your blood.Meta, i am very surprised at this comment.

TheBlackPope
2008-02-15, 07:02
Oh, no shit!? Where did I mention THC in that post? I said you are either smoking a plant (weed) or nasty crystalized chemicals. They produce smoke that has chemicals in it, of course, I never said it didn't, dipshit. Think before you speak.

You made an obvious implication that weed was natural and therefor "better" for you then a chemical like meth. THC is a chemical. So is meth.

Your arguement is void.

Scumdog666
2008-02-15, 07:47
I agree it is retarded when people say that and retarded when they blow the smoke out too soon. I am the only one of my friends who inhales his smoke when tweaking. I only inhale for about 5 seconds though. I don't feel like I am getting anymoar out of it. I seem to think it has all absorbed.

W/ marijuana, when I used to smoke, I would inhale for as long as possible every time I took a hit. For some reason I just felt that it wasn't all getting absorbed.

There is no logic behind these thought processes, they just "feel" correct.


Scumdog666: STFU acolyte, you are stupid, there is no study saying that and you did not read it. You read it off of Totse along time ago from a bunch of retarded acolytes like yourself.

Incubutis: THC is a chemical you retard.



aren't you a crackhead? like, literally?

The Death Monkey
2008-02-15, 09:24
How do you figure? That is the way you ingest anything you smoke.

Meta wins.

Psilocybe
2008-02-15, 15:51
i sure hope you are kidding, it's a good way to end up in the hospital. Unless my "k" is an idiot.

Explain yourself you ignorant myth-believing swine. How the fuck is efficiency dangerous?

steel211
2008-02-16, 04:54
See ya' at the hospital my man.

only if i'm getting a refill on my roxys or xanax (or a good old B12 injection)

i rarely ever smoke meth, i'm a downer guy

i'm just saying when i do... why waste it by not holding it in?

neon
2008-02-17, 00:57
only if i'm getting a refill on my roxys or xanax (or a good old B12 injection)

i rarely ever smoke meth, i'm a downer guy

i'm just saying when i do... why waste it by not holding it in?Who says or implies that it is a waste that is pure unadulterated nonsense, that is unless you are smoking garbage meth. Let's move on... Not to make this a long semi-technical medical discussion or anything, your respiratory system does only one thing best, the principle function is to transport oxygen from the atmosphere into your bloodstream. all things being equal "uppers" are synthetic chemicals, let's call it poison for now, there are limits to commonsense.

Metaphysicist
2008-02-17, 01:19
Wrong, it is not water soluble.

Yes it is.

Put some in water. Does it dissolve or settle? It dissolves.

Meta, i am very surprised at this comment.

Don't know why you would be. It's the truth.

silverballs
2008-02-17, 01:43
Smoking meth is fucking stupid, atleast without any form of temperature control beyond: errr, hold teh flame an inch away.


I'll bet all the meth is absorbed within 2 seconds, the smoke would all be degraded dope and cuts. :)

ilovechronic
2008-02-17, 01:48
actually you are wrong. more of the drug is absorbed when you blow it out right away because it comes back through your mouth and nose where it is absorbed better than in your lungs. in your lungs all the drug is sucked up into the aveoli and doesn't get into the blood.

Haha. Whatever you say cheif.

BongTech101
2008-02-17, 02:03
Always love threads like this and , rightly, dont see them in L.T much....

at risk of reiterating much of what others have said:

- It wont reXstalise inside you... m.a is very water soluble.

- Have always been mystified by the people so proud of blowing out a massive cloud.... because that cloud is either a) a cut, something not as soluble as the m.a or b) is wasteful because you have taken in more than can be absorbed/processed or whatever. Either way, it is not an achievement.

- someone mentioned the flame... and yes, smoking is not the most efficient way to use the stuff... BUT it can be made a lot better with knowledge and practice.
Remember, swiy is aiming to vaporize it NOT burn it... acquire some patience & keep the flame (and am thinking normal flame - not jet/butane) about 1.5 inches from the glass. Roll the 'puddle' once it has liquified - dont keep it on the same 'hot spot'.... and take the flame away at times.
Slow, steady inhalation.... try to hold it for a bit.

et voila.

Incubustis
2008-02-17, 22:40
You made an obvious implication that weed was natural and therefor "better" for you then a chemical like meth. THC is a chemical. So is meth.

Your arguement is void. What the fuck are you talking about? Yes, they are both fucking chemicals. What is your point? The only point I made was that meth smoke and weed smoke are completely different, and that just because one absorbs one way doesn't mean the other will do the same. One smoke comes from plant matter (and anyone with half a brain can realize its not as bad for you as meth smoke) and one comes from dirty chemicals mixed in some meth lab. It seems to me you are just looking to find an argument, and make yourself look like a fucking retard while trying. :rolleyes:

struggling artist
2008-02-18, 00:05
Meth is completely and utterly gay. If you smoke meth, you might as well just go have butt sex in a bath house. You gay nigger fag bitch.

landspeed_presents
2008-02-18, 01:51
Meth is completely and utterly gay. If you smoke meth, you might as well just go have butt sex in a bath house. You gay nigger fag bitch.

Is this thread just a bunch of people trolling?

The only people in this thread that are remotely right are Meta and BongTech101.

I can totally see why they are mods and the rest of you aren't.

and neon, you are a fucking retard.... We should have a sub-forum just for you and internet weed dude to talk to each other about being wrong.

Fucking noobs.

TheSoundsOfScience
2008-02-18, 06:44
Is this thread just a bunch of people trolling?

The only people in this thread that are remotely right are Meta and BongTech101.

I can totally see why they are mods and the rest of you aren't.

and neon, you are a fucking retard.... We should have a sub-forum just for you and internet weed dude to talk to each other about being wrong.

Fucking noobs.

Fucking this... I swear this is one of the stupidest fucking threads I've read in a long time. Use some common sense people. god damn. People like neon and Internet Weed Dude need to be fucking banned; they contribute nothing and spread misinformation all the while flaming people who disagree.

WonkierBubble
2008-02-18, 21:35
It doesn't matter how long you hold in a hit of meth because you will be addicted either way.

Corpse_Grinder
2008-02-18, 22:28
It doesn't matter how long you hold in a hit of meth because you will be addicted either way.

.....or not

FuckedintheHead
2008-02-19, 00:31
Smoking meth is fucking stupid, atleast without any form of temperature control beyond: errr, hold teh flame an inch away.




LO FUCKING L!

Just for the record, I would never hold my hits. It just felt unhealthy, and my voce would get raspy as fuck just from smoking it how I normally did. I probably wouldn't even be able to talk if I held every hit for 20 seconds.

Plus, I used to just love blowing clouds. I got spun as fuck either way.

FuckedintheHead
2008-02-19, 00:32
It doesn't matter how long you hold in a hit of meth because you will be addicted either way.

Fuck you faggot.

I was a regular tweaker for 3 years, and haven't touched the shit since Christmas day.

I have no desire to do meth anymore, or anything for that matter besides the occasional drink. I will be leaving in 9 days to the Army, and I am fuckin' juiced about that. I feel great, like I don't even need drugs anymore.

TheSoundsOfScience
2008-02-19, 00:34
Fuck you faggot.

I was a regular tweaker for 3 years, and haven't touched the shit since Christmas day.

I have no desire to do meth anymore, or anything for that matter besides the occasional drink. I will be leaving in 9 days to the Army, and I am fuckin' juiced about that. I feel great, like I don't even need drugs anymore.

Um, any of you guys heard of sarcasm?

FuckedintheHead
2008-02-19, 00:40
Um, any of you guys heard of sarcasm?

Sarcasm on the internet only works if you put one of these: ":rolleyes:" somewhere in you post.

I thought you knew that, but I guess you're just a lowly n00b.

And if anything, he wasn't being sarcastic, he was being an attention whoring troll. He probably just said that because it is trendy to hate meth these days. Makes the fat lazy hippie stoners feel better about not doing anything except consuming mass amounts of Dorito's and Taco Bell.

alexander224
2008-02-19, 00:56
There's a madness to your meth.


you never fail

bobert the man
2008-02-19, 01:08
I can't source it, but I've read that their have been studied showing that a simple inhale-exhale with weed does the trick just fine, and anything you feel from holding it in can be attributed to...holding your breath. I'd assume it's the same for other substances.

Ive heard this alot, though i know for a fact that holding it in longer does milk the smoke of THC. I forget the actual figures but I've read places that 70% of THC is absorbed in the first 5 seconds, but it is possible to get 20% more by holding it in for up to 30 secs, not that it makes THAT much of a difference. Its handy for REALLY dank bud, seeing as one or two hits will get you high.

neon
2008-02-19, 01:43
Yes it is.

Put some in water. Does it dissolve or settle? It dissolves.



Don't know why you would be. It's the truth.Most of my "partners" disagee and stongly so. If crank oil was water soluble then you wouldn't have to grind it out with other chemical reactions. Look bottom line is smoking meth is for losers.

neon
2008-02-19, 01:45
Always love threads like this and , rightly, dont see them in L.T much....

at risk of reiterating much of what others have said:

- It wont reXstalise inside you... m.a is very water soluble.

- Have always been mystified by the people so proud of blowing out a massive cloud.... because that cloud is either a) a cut, something not as soluble as the m.a or b) is wasteful because you have taken in more than can be absorbed/processed or whatever. Either way, it is not an achievement.

- someone mentioned the flame... and yes, smoking is not the most efficient way to use the stuff... BUT it can be made a lot better with knowledge and practice.
Remember, swiy is aiming to vaporize it NOT burn it... acquire some patience & keep the flame (and am thinking normal flame - not jet/butane) about 1.5 inches from the glass. Roll the 'puddle' once it has liquified - dont keep it on the same 'hot spot'.... and take the flame away at times.
Slow, steady inhalation.... try to hold it for a bit.

et voila.Good call.

WonkierBubble
2008-02-19, 02:59
Fuck you faggot.

I was a regular tweaker for 3 years, and haven't touched the shit since Christmas day.

I have no desire to do meth anymore, or anything for that matter besides the occasional drink. I will be leaving in 9 days to the Army, and I am fuckin' juiced about that. I feel great, like I don't even need drugs anymore.

You just proved my fucking point. You tried meth and got addicted, for three years at that. Good job on quitting but I was just telling this thread it would probably be a good idea to lay off the fucking meth.

FuckedintheHead
2008-02-19, 04:57
You just proved my fucking point. You tried meth and got addicted, for three years at that. Good job on quitting but I was just telling this thread it would probably be a good idea to lay off the fucking meth.

Your logic is flawed.

You try weed and get "addicted" for years.

Oxycontin, same thing. Coke, alcohol, it goes for anything.

You need to open up your mind. I think you should lay off the fucking BLTC, and let people ingest whatever they want without your prissy pompous ass patronizing them.

neon
2008-02-21, 01:40
What logic what weed. Listen guys mellow out, doesn't sound right... at all.

Psilocybe
2008-07-09, 22:42
Most of my "partners" disagee and stongly so. If crank oil was water soluble then you wouldn't have to grind it out with other chemical reactions. Look bottom line is smoking meth is for losers.

YOU COCKSUCKING FAGGOT RETARD! OBVIOUSLY FREEBASE METH HAS DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAN THE HYDROCHLORIDE FORM!

Pull the cocks out of your ears that have evidently jizzed in your brain and think....

"crank oil" is freebase methamphetamine, not methamphetamine hydrochloride, which is what we have been refering to. You fail, you ignorant retard. You and your bath-house bearback buttsex partners need to do a little research....

The hydrochloride form is water soluble, and is a solid at room temperature. You are so dumb, oh my fucking god.

FuzzySlipperz
2008-07-09, 23:38
save yourself some money and just shoot the shit up

Psilocybe
2008-07-10, 00:37
save yourself some money and just shoot the shit up

We're talking about smoking it guy...

bad_b0y_4_lif3
2008-07-10, 00:50
I didn't read the whole thread... so if this has been said, my bad.

I usually take a hit, hold for 8-10 seconds, then exhale half my lung capacity, inhale again, and hold for another 5-8 sec. then exhale completly.

Ive done this for weed, and it gets me uber stoned.

Just throwing it out there. Peace.

OG kush
2008-07-10, 03:55
Scumdog666: STFU acolyte, you are stupid, there is no study saying that and you did not read it. You read it off of Totse along time ago from a bunch of retarded acolytes like yourself.

.

actually, i think he's close... I'm pretty sure the majority of THC is absorbed within ten seconds. Whatever, i guess its not a big deal tho.