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View Full Version : Anybody here fucked with pentazocine?


xxdarksidexx
2008-03-20, 18:11
Is this ope any good?I cant find too much info,it just says it was mixed with an antihistamine tripelennamine back in the 80's and produced the same effects of heroin.I think one of the brand names were talwin and the mixture they called in the 80s were t's and blues(poor mans heroin).Any helps appreciated.Thx.This is kind of urgent.

42Oinchrims
2008-03-20, 18:53
the only place ive heard of this was on the movie drugstore cowboy. I thought they were talking about valium when they said blues tho. But then they shot it up so it didnt make sense. you just enlightened me.

xxdarksidexx
2008-03-20, 20:15
I know its a total opiate,I just wanted to know if it was any good.They are blue in color hence t's and blues.The other antihistamine part I heard played a pretty big role though in the combo.Synthetic opiod analgesic.If something can come close to dope I though it would have to be pretty damn good.Maybe the combo's the whole thing though.

acexnx316
2008-03-20, 21:11
I know its a total opiate,I just wanted to know if it was any good.They are blue in color hence t's and blues.The other antihistamine part I heard played a pretty big role though in the combo.Synthetic opiod analgesic.If something can come close to dope I though it would have to be pretty damn good.Maybe the combo's the whole thing though.

Actually,

Just like Butorphanol (Stadol), Nalbuphine (Nubain) and Buprenorphine (Suboxone/Subutex) to name just a few, Pentazocine is a partial opioid agonist/antagonist, not a full agonist. Meaning that the actual drug is not as powerful and common a choice for one to abuse since the euphoric effects are drastically limited (Note it's schedule IV rating in the US whereas Buprenorphine is Schedule III).

Basically being a partial opioid agonist/antagonist means that you better not be dependent on any other opiates period, because taking Pentazocine while dependent on another opiate of any type, will cause precipitated withdrawal symptoms, allowing for a very, very uncomfortable time. So that's one thing to put on your check list.

Another is, if it is Talwin NX (Pill has somewhat of an orange/yellow hue to it), it contains Naloxone, just like Suboxone does, which is supposed to help prevent/detour users and abusers from IVing the drug, but as we all know, that doesn't work. Especially with the very minute amount that is formulated with Talwin NX (0.5mg per every 50mg). However, I can not say that for sure because I have not tried IVing Pentazocine before, and I am not sure if it, like Buprenorphine, as an opioid has a stronger binding affinity for the mu receptor so as to not allow the Naloxone to void the effects.

Now the one's you said you may be getting are blue. Those may be the Talcion version of the drug, meaning that one pill contains 50mg of Pentazocine along with 650mg of Acetaminophen (Tylenol), also to help prevent IV use, and to help provide more of an analgesic effect. So if you are planning to snort or IV these pills especially, definitely check the imprints of the pill(s) online before doing so to monitor your Acetaminophen/Naloxone intake if any. Though Talwin is still around and still prescribed, it's still good to know that those two other formulations also exist.

I actually did try snorting two of the 50mg Pentazocine tabs last year and didn't really get much of an effect from them, though next time, I'm sure I would try to IV them with an antihistamine to see if any rush ensued. Otherwise though, not one of my most favorite/memorable drugs. One thing I do remember though, is that Pentazocine has a type of menthol/mint tingle to it, kind of like Clonazepam (Klonopin) does if you've ever taken it sublingually or insufflated it before, then you know what I am talking about.

Good luck though! And if you have any other questions, please feel free to ask!

Take care and be safe!

ONE.

42Oinchrims
2008-03-20, 21:13
ya antihistamines boost all opiates and opiods, I guess this might overly affected by a certain antihistamine or soemthing. but like thats why you put promethazine (antihistamine) in syzzurp with codeine or vicodin.

Aces N 8S
2008-03-20, 23:53
i've taken talwins, which are 50mg of pentazocine and .5mg naloxone, on several occasions. the naloxone is just to stop it from being IV'd, its not absorbed enough to have any effect when taken orally or intranasally (the ways i've taken it).

in my experince it is very sedating, but with very little euphoria. i use them as potenators for better opiates. By itself i wouldnt reccomend it, but since they're not a euphoric opiate they are usually cheap and worth while potenators. i usually take them with oxy so that i only have to use half my normal dose of oxy to get just as high.

so if you come arcoss them buy them if the price is right (i pay $2 for 50mg) and save them to take with your ope of choice. great way to save money.

oxydose
2008-03-21, 00:00
not so great, to someone tolerent pretty horrible...

xxdarksidexx
2008-03-21, 02:39
These guys are 50's with none of that nasty naloxone shit.I know better.I can also obtain liquid vials too,so,just wondering.Why the fuck would they even call it a poor mans heroin.It dont even sound like poor mans vicoden.Lol.

oxydose
2008-03-21, 03:06
These guys are 50's with none of that nasty naloxone shit.I know better.I can also obtain liquid vials too,so,just wondering.Why the fuck would they even call it a poor mans heroin.It dont even sound like poor mans vicoden.Lol.

cause folks used to mix it with a old ass prescription antihistamine and reported to get pleasent H like rushes from it, I imagine your ordering online, don't even bother with the shit...

Eckstahsee
2008-05-13, 04:48
Hate to drag this back up, but there has been some talwin nx 50mg floating around my area and after reading this post i wanna know what is the best way if any on how to mainline or shoot it up?

ilovechronic
2008-05-13, 05:32
i've taken talwins, which are 50mg of pentazocine and .5mg naloxone, on several occasions. the naloxone is just to stop it from being IV'd, its not absorbed enough to have any effect when taken orally or intranasally (the ways i've taken it).

in my experince it is very sedating, but with very little euphoria. i use them as potenators for better opiates. By itself i wouldnt reccomend it, but since they're not a euphoric opiate they are usually cheap and worth while potenators. i usually take them with oxy so that i only have to use half my normal dose of oxy to get just as high.

so if you come arcoss them buy them if the price is right (i pay $2 for 50mg) and save them to take with your ope of choice. great way to save money.
If it is a partial agonist and antagonist then how would it potentiate opiates/opioids? Maybe it has a lower affinity or something unlike bupe which has a very high affinity for the MU receptors andit will kick opiates out and keep them from getting into the receptors. Is pentazocine not like bupe in that way? I mean didnt someone say its in the same class as bupe?

acexnx316
2008-05-13, 22:06
Hate to drag this back up, but there has been some talwin nx 50mg floating around my area and after reading this post i wanna know what is the best way if any on how to mainline or shoot it up?

Be careful, as Talwin NX contains Naloxone is which is an opiate antagonist (Used to reverse opiate overdose), meaning if you are currently dependent on any opiates, by IVing this chemical, it will put you into instant withdrawal by literally ripping off any opiate(s) currently on your receptors and replacing them. Not very pleasant! Although, in small enough doses, at least in Suboxone, Naloxone has been proven ineffective as a detourrant for IV use; though it may be in part to the fact that Buprenorphine has such a high affinity for the mu receptor (Much higher than Pentazocine [Talwin]), that the Buprenorphine hangs on to the receptors/stays on them just enough that the Naloxone does not become active/noticeable enough to cause any ill effects. And on a side note, each Talwin NX tab contains 50mg Pentazocine and 0.5mg Naloxone, where each Suboxone 2mg tab has 2mg Buprenorphine and 0.5mg Naloxone (8mg Suboxone tabs have 8mg Buprenorphine and 2.0mg Naloxone). Also, Naloxone is shown to only be active when injected directly into the bloodstream and not orally/rectally or insufflated (Snorted) because of it's poor bioavailability after the 1st pass through your liver.

If you do not have any sort of dependency issues with opiates, and do not need to take any on a daily basis (To prevent withdrawal symptoms), then you should be all set; otherwise, even the Pentazocine (Talwin) itself can cause withdrawal if one is dependent on full agonist opiates (Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Methadone) as well.

So, if you are currently not dependent on any opiates (And at least have somewhat of a tolerance/do them on a semi-regular basis), and are feeling daring, the absolute "best" bang for your buck would be to crush up 2, 50mg Talwin NX tablets (If you are not experienced with opiates and don't have much of a tolerance, I would maybe start with 1, 50mg Talwin NX tab instead), and dump out two capsules (25mg each for a total of 50mg) of Diphenhydramine (Benadryl). Take JUST the Benadryl and add your saline/uncontaminated solution to the powder, filter (With wheel filter if you have them) and draw into syringe. Now crush up your 2 Talwin tabs and add the solution you just drew up in the syringe to them, mix, filter, draw back up into syringe. Stick in vein, register, shoot, enjoy a crappy to mildly good (And very short-lived) high.

Do not attempt this if you have no experience with syringes and IVing. IVing pills is not recommended and I would not even attempt it if you do not have wheel filters and sterile saline solution at your disposal. Also, there is a risk (But a very small one) of the Naloxone becoming active and causing very unpleasant effects. Though it is unlikely, as I can say I have shot 8mg of Suboxone once (Which contains 2mg of Naloxone, where each 50mg Talwin NX tab contains 0.5mg Naloxone for a total of 1mg Naloxone for the preparation above with 2 tabs) in the preparation described above with absolutely no ill effects. And should the Naloxone become active some how, some way, it does have a very, very short half life (30-60min), so the effects of feeling unpleasant will wear off quickly.

If you are looking for an alternative way to try and get a decent "bang" for your buck, you can crush up the 2 Talwin NX tabs, and dump out 2 Benadryl caps (25mg each for a total of 50mg), mix the two powders together, put into an oral syringe, add water and basically insert it into your rear, and squirt the solution.

If you do not want to try this either, or do not have the oral syringe to do so, you can go buy one, or swallow 2 Benadryl caps (25mg each, for a total of 50mg), wait 30-45min, then crush up and snort your 2 Talwin NX tabs. Though this could also pose a problem as it will most likely be quite a bit of powder, so you can always take the powder and put it into a piece of tissue/toilet paper and parachute (Swallow) it.

The order of the methods of administration above, are listed from most effective to least effective (IV to oral).

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask, but depending on how many you get, I would MAYBE try a couple, see how it is, then put away a few for a rainy day, or when nothing else is around to prevent withdrawals or boredom.

Overall, this drug does kinda blow, though if IVed, can have a rush comparable to something a bit stronger than Hydrocodone (But not as strong as Oxycodone). Be careful whatever you do!

Good luck and be safe!

djONE.