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jonogt
2008-05-11, 04:48
Has anyone else ever done this? Its not supposed to do anything but it really seems to be...


I had a script for adderall xr 20mg caps but I dropped it cause it was getting to where I'd just go on cleaning/organizing rampages through my house instead of studying, and then have a pretty rough crash only 6-7 hrs after taking it. Had some good times but atleast for the rest of college im really more interested in something that helps me legitimately concentrate and do my work regularly instead of cramming all my shit into a couple tweaked out days straight, so the doc is having me try this new thing called Vyvanse. I still get crashes, but they aren't nearly as strong, and they don't usually come for atleast 10-12 hrs.

Its still an amphetamine, but from what I've read its different because the amp is inert in the body until its been activated by an enzyme in the stomach or digestive tract or somewhere down there. He said he's switched a lot of people to it who get crashes like I was, and its a longer more subtle effect that never really hits that euphoric stage and then doesn't plummet so hard either It's actually for children's ADHD, but they make higher doses... mines 50mg ...for adults/bigger people. I believe the digestive tract activation is what gives it the longer drawn out effect because your body isn't trying so hard to break it down, and the lack of a euphoric phase makes it less abusable so parents feel safer giving it to their kids and such. The content of the capsule is already a really fine powder, and I think I read somewhere that the company actually lists opening it and mixing with a beverage or food is acceptable.

The other day I gave a friend one of em to compare to the more common ones, and he snorted the whole thing and said he got fuckedd up from that mannn, which I just blew off cause the nasal passage wouldnt have that enzyme, and his claim blatantly contradicts one of the promoted attributes of the med. Well earlier tonight another friend was nagging me that we should try it, so we each snorted half of the 50mg. I make a strong effort to be critical and honest with myself when i'm taking something that I know might be a placebo effect, and my friend who I snorted it with is even more that way, but we both felt the effect after about 30 seconds. I know I didn't get fucked up from it... a real little bit euphoric if at all, but I would definately say I got a worthwhile pick-me-up and alertness... sorta like one of those really strong coffeeshop drink without any of the jittery feeling. I drank some opium earlier tonight and was pretty drowsy and he's been drinking beer the last couples hrs and was in a similar state, and we both feel nicely awake and motivated.


Any insight on what it is I'm feeling right now and how it works? I would probably write it off as a placebo if my friend didn't agree with me on the effects. He's by far the toughest drug effects critic I've ever met, and if an effect isn't real, he'll see right through it and flat out say so, no matter what he's told it is.

For anybody who is going to post a reply saying something like you fuckin tool vyvanse is shit your not getting any effect go back to the 9th grade, save it for someone who will actually think your cool. Not everything that doesn't get you fucked up is shit... it legitimately does help with concentration throughout the day, and I'm not coming on here trolling about how tweaked out I got from doin lines of it. I tried it with the predisposed assumption that it wouldn't do anything, so I noticed some effect without looking for it at all. Plenty possible that it is in fact a placebo, but it isn't striking me as one at all, and if some good intelligent users here (Joepedo, Meta, anyone else with mature/serious drug knowledge especially) could chime in, it'd be much appreciated.

thanks
-Jon

Mr.Dave
2008-07-23, 17:38
It is possible to get amped up on vyvanse, I actually just did right now. Vyvanse can't be snorted on its own because there is an amino-acid binded to the dexamphetamine, making it into a substance known as lisdexamphetamine. When the pill is ingested, once it reaches any gastric juices, the amino-acid goes away and it becomes pure dexamphetamine.

In order to make it snortable, you have to combine it with an acid as close to gastric acid as possible. Since the binders in almost any add pill are slightly basic, you should add a liquid that is around 3 on the pH scale.( 7 being neutral, anything above 7 is basic, anything below 7 is acidic.Lemon juice is really good, and so is vinegar.

All you need to do is put the vyvanse powder in a spoon, put a small amount of your acid of choice in it, just enough to cover up the powder. Stir it slightly with a toothpick and then hold a lighter underneath it and bring the liquid to a boil. Once the liquid is gone, the leftover powder makes sort of a crackling noise. Pour in more of your acid, and repeat the process several times. Once your done, scrape the powder out, get out a razorblade, cut up a fat line, and enjoy :) I'm tweaking like a mofo right now

One more thing: whenever you evaporate the acid, use a toothpick to push the powder to the middle of the spoon before putting in the liquid.

sex&violence
2008-07-24, 03:19
I was prescribed to it for a while, you cant snort it. The only way it has abuse potential is if it is taken orally.

jamaica0535
2008-07-24, 03:40
reflux the Vyvanse in a storng acid or base... muriatic acid or some non sudsy ammonia should work fine... might need to repeat several times to have it all fully reacted... of course the ammonia would probably cleave off the HCL from the dextroamphetamine leaving you with freebase dexamp... if your just going to snort it just react it in an acid...

after your done you should be left with perfectly abusable dextroamphetamine...

spl1ff
2008-07-24, 04:46
the reason you are getting effects from snorting it is because you are swallowing the mucous that you get after railing the stuff and that's ending up in your stomach. you might as well just eat it.

Daran
2008-07-24, 05:05
It is possible to get amped up on vyvanse, I actually just did right now. Vyvanse can't be snorted on its own because there is an amino-acid binded to the dexamphetamine, making it into a substance known as lisdexamphetamine. When the pill is ingested, once it reaches any gastric juices, the amino-acid goes away and it becomes pure dexamphetamine.

In order to make it snortable, you have to combine it with an acid as close to gastric acid as possible. Since the binders in almost any add pill are slightly basic, you should add a liquid that is around 3 on the pH scale.( 7 being neutral, anything above 7 is basic, anything below 7 is acidic.Lemon juice is really good, and so is vinegar.

All you need to do is put the vyvanse powder in a spoon, put a small amount of your acid of choice in it, just enough to cover up the powder. Stir it slightly with a toothpick and then hold a lighter underneath it and bring the liquid to a boil. Once the liquid is gone, the leftover powder makes sort of a crackling noise. Pour in more of your acid, and repeat the process several times. Once your done, scrape the powder out, get out a razorblade, cut up a fat line, and enjoy :) I'm tweaking like a mofo right now

One more thing: whenever you evaporate the acid, use a toothpick to push the powder to the middle of the spoon before putting in the liquid.

I have regular access to Vyvanse and I just wanna say I love you.

jamaica0535
2008-07-24, 05:22
I have regular access to Vyvanse and I just wanna say I love you.

somehow snorting dried up lemon juice or vinegar seems unpleasant... does citric acid evaporate very cleanly? seems like diluting some HCL to the desired ph would be a bit easier on the nose...

add acid to water not water to acid...

Daran
2008-07-24, 05:31
somehow snorting dried up lemon juice or vinegar seems unpleasant... does citric acid evaporate very cleanly? seems like diluting some HCL to the desired ph would be a bit easier on the nose...

add acid to water not water to acid...

I'll get by on my lemon juice thank you very much.
Edit: This thread is 2 months old...

jamaica0535
2008-07-24, 05:40
I'll get by on my lemon juice thank you very much.
Edit: This thread is 2 months old...

have you snorted any of it so far?

i imagine if citric acid doesnt evaporate and your just evaporating the water out of it it would burn like fuck going up the nose...

but im pretty sure HCL will evaporate...

Daran
2008-07-24, 05:58
have you snorted any of it so far?

i imagine if citric acid doesnt evaporate and your just evaporating the water out of it it would burn like fuck going up the nose...

but im pretty sure HCL will evaporate...

I don't know where I can find any HCl, but I shall report back my findings.

jamaica0535
2008-07-24, 06:05
I don't know where I can find any HCl, but I shall report back my findings.
hardware story muriatic acid. try the pool supplies. pick up some ph strips as well to get the ph where you want it....

Daran
2008-07-24, 07:32
hardware story muriatic acid. try the pool supplies. pick up some ph strips as well to get the ph where you want it....

Oh, so they do sell it at hardware stores... Good to know.

mr elusive
2008-07-25, 03:34
Oh, so they do sell it at hardware stores... Good to know.

Yeah let us know how this goes. It'll be pretty sweet that something this easy fucks over those pharm company anti-drug people. And Vynase gets scripted at higher doses than Adderall too, so it would be a great thing if this worked so easy. I wont be the guinea pig snorting acid up my nose first though.

jamaica0535
2008-07-25, 03:47
Yeah let us know how this goes. It'll be pretty sweet that something this easy fucks over those pharm company anti-drug people. And Vynase gets scripted at higher doses than Adderall too, so it would be a great thing if this worked so easy. I wont be the guinea pig snorting acid up my nose first though.

we already know it works... this was discussed long ago, everyone was like "this sucks, how can we abuse it?" and there were all of these complex solutions and then joepedo came along and was like, "reflux in a strong acid or base"...its simplicity is astounding...

in reality your just recreating the environment of the stomach, stomach cleaves off the amino acid at a certain rate giving you the effects of dextroamphetamine... the HCL will evaporate cleanly... i just wasn't sure about lemon juice, if you wanted to see just put a few drops of it onto a spoon, boil it off with a flame... let the spoon cool and lick the spoon... if you get the tart sort of burning that citric acid is characteristic of its probably going to burn like fuck going up the nose... acids arent always liquids, you just see the liquid form because its usually a bit more usable... pure HCL is a gas, pure ammonia is a gas, muriatic acid is just HCL disolved into water.. water evaporates, HCL does as well...

Piles Of Crack
2008-07-26, 02:50
And Vynase gets scripted at higher doses than Adderall too, so it would be a great thing if this worked so easy.

Hell of a lot more expensive, too.

Chameleon Gangster
2008-07-26, 03:01
I've taken vyvanse before and it seems to do the trick just like adderal...not quite as good but its close enough that I don't really care. I remember once I had been out drinking the night before and had work at 8 in the morning. I only had 4 hrs of sleep, got up and took 2 vyvanse (50 mg each) and then went to work and I was great. I had to clean about 500 test tubes and I actually enjoyed doing so...That's amphetamines for you :D

mr elusive
2008-07-26, 03:02
Hell of a lot more expensive, too.

Very true, but being able to just turn it into dextro this easy is a good fuck you to the pharm companies/DEA/antidrug whoever.

Insurance will pay for Vynase though I'm pretty sure, most insurance anyway.

For the acid burning in the nose couldnt you just burn/evap off the acid, then add a little water, and then evap that an be left with virtually no acid?

Yeah thank god for JoePedo, we can figure out how to abuse almost anything with his help. Anyone figure out what to do with that Opana ER to make it abusable BTW?

Piles Of Crack
2008-07-26, 03:07
Very true, but being able to just turn it into dextro this easy is a good fuck you to the pharm companies/DEA/antidrug whoever.

If I recall correctly I don't think the conversion of lisdexamphetamine to dexamphetamine is at a 1:1 ratio. Could be wrong though.

ingutted
2008-07-26, 03:30
If I recall correctly I don't think the conversion of lisdexamphetamine to dexamphetamine is at a 1:1 ratio. Could be wrong though.
no youre right.

spl1ff
2008-07-26, 03:30
If I recall correctly I don't think the conversion of lisdexamphetamine to dexamphetamine is at a 1:1 ratio. Could be wrong though.

chemically it is, because 1 molecule of lisdexamphetamine yields one molecule of dextroamphetamine plus an amino acid molecule. but, you'll always lose a little bit due to poor technique when handling the shit.

jamaica0535
2008-07-26, 03:45
For the acid burning in the nose couldnt you just burn/evap off the acid, then add a little water, and then evap that an be left with virtually no acid?

possible but your heating it along with the dextroamphetamine salt, you might lose some or a great deal of your final product with heating... it would be nice to have an acid that will evaporate off at room temperature...

Piles Of Crack
2008-07-26, 14:07
chemically it is, because 1 molecule of lisdexamphetamine yields one molecule of dextroamphetamine plus an amino acid molecule. but, you'll always lose a little bit due to poor technique when handling the shit.

It still seems to me like a 70 mg dex-amp formulation, even if formulated for 12 hour dosing, is a pretty high amount. Which, for someone who requires high-dosage stimulant therapy, it actually isn't....but then again, I've read from several sources online that therapeutically 70 mg of Vyvanse is equivalent to 30 mg of Adderall XR. And that doesn't seem accurate, either....so wtf? :confused: