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http://www.first4magnets.com/f319---...0-b5y-47-p.asp

Best and more powerful S3 handkey

take 2 of the magnets and then flip the other two upside down and reconnect
then you have a s3 handkey.

so all in all you get 2 x alpha s3 handkeys for 10

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A bump on an old thread. But I've found slightly better rated magnets at about the same size measuring 30 x 10 x 6 n45 grade rated at 6kg pull each.

I'm gona try and make a 2 in 1 s3 & fortknox/mini dls detatcher. Using 6 of the magnets spaced correctly
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A bump on an old thread. But I've found slightly better rated magnets at about the same size measuring 30 x 10 x 6 n45 grade rated at 6kg pull each.

I'm gona try and make a 2 in 1 s3 & fortknox/mini dls detatcher. Using 6 of the magnets spaced correctly
Where ?

You could jsut double up these magnets.

It is 10 in a pack anyway.

http://www.first4magnets.com/f647---...0-b8o-48-p.asp

or

http://e-magnetsuk.com/magnet_produc...r_magnets.aspx

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Old 02-21-2013, 02:23 PM
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Fleebay.

Pack of 10 also so ill go for the slightly bigger ones which will be stronger.

Plan on making a bracket with mags on them like this, which will use only 6 magnets, plus use up less space and easier than carrying both types separately nothing worse than having to go back out as you have the wrong detatcher.

+ 25mm gap + 6mm gap +
- - -


So the left and middle magnets will do the fortknox boxes, and the middle and right magnets will do s3 locks.

There will be a hole between the 25mm gap so I can slide the switch

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Old 02-21-2013, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Alpha S3 handkey Uk

link to the magnets please


How about doing it like this

2 in 1 key

http://postimage.org/image/uggho10vl/

I am atatching mine to a piece of card, works just as well.

Why not just order them. should take a week to arrive. choose the cheap postage option

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetai...84-N52&cat=168

try looking on ebay.com too

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Strong...item4607454a8f

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Old 02-21-2013, 06:56 PM
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link to the magnets please


How about doing it like this

2 in 1 key

http://postimage.org/image/uggho10vl/

I am atatching mine to a piece of card, works just as well.

Why not just order them. should take a week to arrive. choose the cheap postage option

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetai...84-N52&cat=168

try looking on ebay.com too

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Strong...item4607454a8f
That's how I'm making it. However It needs a hole between the mags for fortknox end.

I'm getting them from eBay. Slightly bigger than the ones u linked too so will be a bit stronger. Says rated at 6kg and are n42 strength
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:35 PM
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That's how I'm making it. However It needs a hole between the mags for fortknox end.

I'm getting them from eBay. Slightly bigger than the ones u linked too so will be a bit stronger. Says rated at 6kg and are n42 strength
Why does it need a hole ? I have never opened one, so that's why I am asking.

Anyway, If it did I could easily cut a gap in between the cardboard.

Can you draw on paper how it should look, with the holes cut out too ?

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Old 02-21-2013, 08:30 PM
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Just like the image you posted, but it needs a gap because the slide is on the top between where both magnets go to release, on the s3 boxes the slides normally on the front edge whilst the key goes on the top near rear edge.

See here http://www.ffr-dsi.com/detacher-micr...ip-and-lanyard

Here's the top of box, that sticking up bit you need to slide to open. http://www.ffr-dsi.com/fort-knox-safer-security-box
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Default Re: Alpha S3 handkey Uk

Thanks, that clears it up. However, I may not need to because the magnets are raised off the cardboard, thus it creates a gap naturally.

yes, this needs a hole.
http://www.ffr-dsi.com/detacher-micr...ip-and-lanyard

But imagine if the magnets were on top of the plastic, instead of inside it.

Last question.

After I have it out of the alpha box/ fortnox box, are there further tags that need deactivating on the product ?

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Old 02-21-2013, 08:48 PM
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Thanks, that clears it up. However, I may not need to because the magnets are raised off the cardboard, thus it creates a gap naturally.

yes, this needs a hole.
http://www.ffr-dsi.com/detacher-micr...ip-and-lanyard

But imagine if the magnets were on top of the plastic, instead of inside it.

Last question.

After I have it out of the alpha box/ fortnox box, are there further tags that need deactivating on the product ?
Yes but you need to be able to slide it with your fingers whilst the magnets are in place. Essentially the board is blocking your fingers.

As for any other tags, that's down to the shop so always check. I've NEVER had any item tagged. They just stick a tag to the inside of the safer box
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:17 PM
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Thanks.
I need to acquire one of those boxes to experiment.

Sorry, what is the metal plate/cardboard going to block.

I thought it just needed the magnet to touch the top of the box.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: Alpha S3 handkey Uk

Fuck experiment. Just get free stuff.

Between the 2 magnets is the release switch. You have to actually slide this to open the lock. The magnets just lift the pins which lets it slide. So ur cardboard will bridge over the switch blocking it. Unless there's a gap or u make it with a gap like the original that would slide it in one movement.
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I ordered from kj magnetics, should take about a week to arrive.

I am sure other magnets work that are a few mm off.
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Let us know. Ill get mine in around a week also
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Default Re: Alpha S3 handkey Uk

Here's my crude attempt at an all in 1 s3 key to the right, and fortknox style on the left.
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Here's my crude attempt at an all in 1 s3 key to the right, and fortknox style on the left.
You don't need that many magnets on a s3
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You don't need that many magnets on a s3
He's also trying to make a fortknox key

they open mw fortknox security boxes

these

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You don't need that many magnets on a s3
Yeah I know,
That's why I said s3 to the right, fortknox to the left.
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Yeah I know,
That's why I said s3 to the right, fortknox to the left.
Well does it work ?

Also, watch those videos. that hole may not be necessary.
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I'm testing tomoz.
See if I can get a few more kindles
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what did you put it in

what's that plastic thing called
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That's just a bit of cable trunking. It was the only thing I had to hand

If it works tomoz on the s3's and fortknox boxes then ill try and do something in metal.

I'm more interested in the fortknox boxes opening 100% as that will give me a lot of choice, from mobiles, sat navs, gameboys to hard drives, tablet computers.
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Okay.

How does someone conceal a kindle, sat nav, etc , in a big supermarket ?
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Find an isle that only a camera can see you from behind, then use your body to block its view. Those little trolleys are good for it as the item will already be above waist height so you ain't gotta reach in to open the box or get anything out.

Also some of them have changing rooms, if you can get into 1 with your shopping your laughing.

My theory is they're probably not actually watching me on CCTV....... If they are then I'm fucked anyways.
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Well tried my s3/ fortknox key today.
And it works like a dream. Opening a packet of crisps is harder.

160 of tablet computer secured in a fortknox box for the cost of 8's worth of magnets.


Lil Mohamed has had between 5-10 of these now, no idea of they're even any good as I stick to me ipad.

Well as it worked so well I made a cleaner looking model of my key:

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do the measurements work ?

6mm for alpha

25mm for fortknox ?
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25mm for fortknox fine, 6mm for s3.

It was the fortknox I was more interested in.
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Well tried my s3/ fortknox key today.
And it works like a dream. Opening a packet of crisps is harder.

160 of tablet computer secured in a fortknox box for the cost of 8's worth of magnets.


Lil Mohamed has had between 5-10 of these now, no idea of they're even any good as I stick to me ipad.

Well as it worked so well I made a cleaner looking model of my key:

Nice one. You gonna get anymore?? They'll just put it down to stock thats never come in to the store once they see how many they're missing. How much do you manage to sell them on for?

still don't get how you hide that down your skinny jeans lol
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Well as I put the boxes back in locations where there are other empty ones they probably blame it on staff theft, as they probably have a lot of faith in the boxes.

Yes I'll be getting more, no rush, I sell the one I got today for 120, there's another version I get that has more storage and that sells for 150.

They fly out the door.

In relation to the size they not big.

Here's a side view


The sloped end helps it slide away even easier.
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Yeah I see what you mean about size. Think I'd be able to hide that.

Tesco can afford it, you won't be the only one hitting that shop.

I'm after an Apple TV.

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Asda has them too.
However not all tescos or asda has them in the boxes. One of my locals has empty boxes instead.

You'd lrobay get an Apple TV from aple shop, the box is tiny.

A few months ago the John Lewis home store had lots of them on display it was very easy, so try there of you have one local.

Also try your local pc world.

Mine doesn't have them boxes and out, however they have them dotted around the tv section plugged in and in use,

I managed to get a western digital tv live hub which I preferred over the ape tv due to the formats it played by taking the display one. It was stuck down using what I think was the no more nails strips, but it didnt do a great job. I know if I really wanted I could also get a display apple tv from there too.

All you have to do then is buy a power adapter, hdmi lead, and possibly the remote, but you can prob pinch the remote from somewhere also
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kmc, you are a legend. Any more hints/tips would be greatly appreciated!
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or just walk around kmart or walmart and look at the stocker carts around health & beauty or electronics, some retard will leave a alpha key laying there.

my friend got 3 of them that way. they beep on the way out though

if there is no walmart/kmart there

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I'm gona re adjust the s3 side of my key as its not as fast as I like, it needs a bit of readjustment to get it to work. Some stores have spider wraps, around fortknox boxes! So I have to be quick and smooth not seemingly fiddling with boxes.


Still lil Mohamed managed to get 3 aftershaves using s3 side today
The fortknox style end is amazing! And does a variety of boxes, lil Mohamed got a blackberry curve, a Nokia lumia and a tomtom sat nav today thanks to the 8 magnets.


One store however went to the hassle of putting empty games cases in lockable boxes!! Wtf. Who wants empty game cases? Opened 5 call of duty black ops 2's, and a host of others, then looked carefully and each one had seal broke. Why they don't just leave empty case out like most stores I have no idea.
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what magnets are good ?

these ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1407926672...84.m1497.l2649
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Nah n35 grade don't seem very strong. You not got the ones you ordered yet?

I'm using n45 ones.

Size is :30x10x7mm

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Here's my baby. Re spaced the s3 I think I had it around 4mm gap so spaced back out to 6mm.

Wrapped it up black so it doesn't shine in store and catch the eye of CCTV or LP

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Yes. But I am looking for a UK source.
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Mine are uk sourced. But does it matter where its from?
I'm tempted to order an s3 from Aliexpress works out about 9 just takes around 3 weeks to come.
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These will have what you want
http://www.cermag.co.uk/
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